Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:52 pm  

Robbed.

Be interesting to see if Moyes reckons Neville should be punished and is ruining the game.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:01 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

Lino bottled it. But then again, the officials always do in derby games.

Everton should have won that game. Now all they have to show for it is to jack off in delight that a perfectly legitimate goal was cancelled out that would have seen them come away with nothing.

That's the thing, Everton should have won that easily, but now it just turns into some sort of moral victory (need ANY victory at the moment i suppose ) for Liverpool as they were much out-played but didn't get beat. Didn't see any of this AMAZING football from Liverpool that gets talked about daily on here either though. Nice celebration from Suarez too, along with his assault on Distin's ankle (should have been sent off, cancels out the onside 'goal')

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:03 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Robbed.

Be interesting to see if Moyes reckons Neville should be punished and is ruining the game.

We're one bad decision away from seeing Rogers crack up, i swear.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:04 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Robbed again. Pity it came down to a referee's call as it was an OK game without much incident.

Where does the 'again' come into it? Where else have you been robbed? It clearly wasn't offside, but it would be hard to argue that Coates didn't foul Jagielka for the knock back. Everton were due that decision after having so many derbies taken out of their hands by refereeing mistakes in the past.

It was a cracking game in entertainment terms if not quality. Everton bossed the first half after Liverpool scored their goals. The telling contribution in the match was Suarez. But not for his assist, goal or the non-winner at the end, but his foul on Mirallas. He was having the better of Wisdom and had he stayed on I'd have fancied Everton to win. Frustrating for Everton today, the game was a week early for Fellaini to contribute much and the threat we had down the left was stopped when Mirallas departed. We didn't really create anything but half chances from crosses in the second half. So much inconsistency from the referees again, Pienaar was banned from this game for not touching the QPR player last week. Sterling in the first half, after being booked, kicks Baines in a very similar position and isn't sent off.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:07 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Be interesting to see if Moyes reckons Neville should be punished and is ruining the game.

Unlike Rodgers who would just deny it was a dive in the first place, Moyes gave Neville a telling off at half time and he came out after the game and owned up to his mistake. Daft thing was, had he not dived he would have got a free kick for it.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:20 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Everton bossed the first half after Liverpool scored their goals. The telling contribution in the match was Suarez. But not for his assist, goal or the non-winner at the end, but his foul on Mirallas. He was having the better of Wisdom and had he stayed on I'd have fancied Everton to win. Frustrating for Everton today, the game was a week early for Fellaini to contribute much and the threat we had down the left was stopped when Mirallas departed. We didn't really create anything but half chances from crosses in the second half. So much inconsistency from the referees again, Pienaar was banned from this game for not touching the QPR player last week. Sterling in the first half, after being booked, kicks Baines in a very similar position and isn't sent off.

Pretty much spot on.....Mirallas stays on and Everton, in all likelihood, win, because he was running rings round that Wisdom, who was the dodgiest of some very dodgy defenders on display today.

Problem with the game today was that you get fans from both sides claiming if's and but's.....Liverpool rightly point to the disallowed goal, but similarly Everton can easily claim Suarez shouldn't have been there to apply the finish, because his fouls on Mirallas and Distin (both looked like deliberate attempts to take a player out of the game) were worthy of 2 yellows.

Sad thing is about Suarez is that he is a very, very good player, but he's just not a very nice individual....He's the old fashioned South American - great skill, but a horrible nasty streak. I think he would be sensational at a big club in Spain, because he would be more likely to get away with his more 'Latin' part of his game, which isn't looked upon kindly over here.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:22 pm  

How is standing on a players foot accidently a red card? Behave, what about Fellaini's stamp on Allen?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:23 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Where does the 'again' come into it? Where else have you been robbed? It clearly wasn't offside, but it would be hard to argue that Coates didn't foul Jagielka for the knock back. Everton were due that decision after having so many derbies taken out of their hands by refereeing mistakes in the past.

It was a cracking game in entertainment terms if not quality. Everton bossed the first half after Liverpool scored their goals. The telling contribution in the match was Suarez. But not for his assist, goal or the non-winner at the end, but his foul on Mirallas. He was having the better of Wisdom and had he stayed on I'd have fancied Everton to win. Frustrating for Everton today, the game was a week early for Fellaini to contribute much and the threat we had down the left was stopped when Mirallas departed. We didn't really create anything but half chances from crosses in the second half. So much inconsistency from the referees again, Pienaar was banned from this game for not touching the QPR player last week. Sterling in the first half, after being booked, kicks Baines in a very similar position and isn't sent off.

We've had quite a few calls go against us this season, go through some of the pages on here if you want a few examples. How did Coates foul Jagielka? He jumped up nice and high and cleanly won the ball, his arms came on to Jagielka on his way down, but Jagielka wasn't getting that ball, nor was he denied the chance to get it. The call was a joke and you trying to defend it as a mythical foul shows just how embarrassing you are.

Not sure what foul you're talkng about? When Mirallas was injured, it looked like he'd just pulled something after he crossed the ball. I don't remember seeing him tackled or anything.

Indeed, inconsistency is a joke. Sterling's original booking was a joke, did his wrist stroke Baines' ribs? The second challenge wasn't a yellow card either, just a standard foul but your lust to see a player of ours get a red is what made you think it was a second yellow. I didn't see what Pienaar was done for but Sterling didn't deserve to walk today. The only Liverpool player who deserved anything was Suarez for his late foot, a yellow was about right depending on how you viewed the malice.

The game as a whole was quite odd. Everton were the home side so were always going to have better spells. We were going well at 2-0 but the inexperience of the team came through and we let it slip. The goal at the end wouldn't have been undeserved, but a draw was probably fair.

As for the cretin saying where was the great quality football, Everton chased us off the park today, it was always going to be an open, scrappy game, every derby is.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:25 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Sad thing is about Suarez is that he is a very, very good player, but he's just not a very nice individual....He's the old fashioned South American - great skill, but a horrible nasty streak. I think he would be sensational at a big club in Spain, because he would be more likely to get away with his more 'Latin' part of his game, which isn't looked upon kindly over here.

He's just a grub. A horrible individual who lets his club's history down with his antics. The one on Distin was horrible, they were debating intent on the commentary, but he knew what he was doing. As cynical as it gets.

What was he up to with the coin as well? He picks it up, but instead of giving it to the ref or the police if he wants to make something of it, he stuffs it into his boot? I half expected him to whip it out and ping it back into the crowd when he celebrated the winner.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:47 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

What was he up to with the coin as well? He picks it up, but instead of giving it to the ref or the police if he wants to make something of it, he stuffs it into his boot? I half expected him to whip it out and ping it back into the crowd when he celebrated the winner.

He's going to give it to Kenwright to spend in Janurary.