Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:23 pm  

Never a Terry hater. He's a bloody good defender, ateotd.
Thing is, he's had the opportunity at England level for over a decade, now, and we've not risen above QF level. Time to move on. Can the same be arranged for Gerrard, Ferdinand etc. You've had your time in an England shirt. We did nowt. Let's try something/someone else.

As a human being, Terry is not the kind of person I'd want to be related to, if you know what I mean.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:25 pm  

Tony Pullis moaning about tackling?

What next?

Mancini moaning about other teams spending too much money?
Ferguson moaning about other teams getting the benefit of refereeing decisions?
Moyes saying another team are too negative?
Wenger moaning about another team selling all their best players?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:28 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

Never a Terry hater. He's a bloody good defender, ateotd.
Thing is, he's had the opportunity at England level for over a decade, now, and we've not risen above QF level. Time to move on. Can the same be arranged for Gerrard, Ferdinand etc. You've had your time in an England shirt. We did nowt. Let's try something/someone else.

As a human being, Terry is not the kind of person I'd want to be related to, if you know what I mean.

Pretty much spot on....Good footballer, been a fine servant to Chelsea, but him and his family are scum, which has meant he will always be viewed with derision by most non-Chelsea fans.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:31 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

His predecessor deserved to go, as even you acknowledged. He then went to Inter Milan and he sucked far worse than Hodgson did at Liverpool. And that's with your club never wanting Hodgson at all and virtually being against him from the start.

At least now you've got a better manager in, and you're showing how great you can be. Same with Dalgleish. Really shown Hodgson up, haven't they?

The fact that even a generally good Euro campaign was belittled by you shows how irrational you are.

AVB was a massive failure at Chelsea. He's started off dreadfully at Tottenham, but been rescued by the last two games. His interviews are dreadful and embarrassing. He might turn it around, but it's not a surprise that an ex-CFC failure who talks out of his ass and offers poor results has been disliked so far.

The time for Rafa to leave was right, the replacement wasn't. A generally good Euro campaign? A tad embarrassing on your part. Got through the groups, knocked straight out. No greater than what Capello achieved and that was with the pressure off and expectations at an all time low.

As for AVB, I don't follow Spurs so I asked a general question (something you seemed to take exception to), thanks for your explanation but I want the one from the Spurs fan, not the Chelsea fan.

For the record, Dalglish had a poor year last year, I concede that, but you won't find a single Liverpool fan that would have swapped our dreadful last year for Roy. Uninspiring, clueless, moribund and quite simply my lowest point as a Liverpool fan. Results are one thing, what Roy was to our club went way beyond results.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:34 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Obviously, I'm going to say this as an Evertonian, but the trust and faith put in David Moyes is a great example of how a football club should be run

Pity not all of it was from your fans. "Taken us as far he can", etc.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:35 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Pretty much spot on....Good footballer, been a fine servant to Chelsea, but him and his family are scum, which has meant he will always be viewed with derision by most non-Chelsea fans.

Allegedly sleeping with his ex team mates ex girlfriend = National hate figure, stripped of the England captaincy, booed at every ground since.

Having an 8 year affair with his brother's wife = Nothing to do with us really, and oh yeah, let's make you GB captain.

If you look as some of Terry's vocal critics - Joey Barton, Craig Bellemy for example, and Rio Ferdinand especially, what they have done in their careers has been far, far worse than what Terry has done.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:44 pm  

LFC fans love a good twitter picture dont they? There was one going around 'proving it was Evra who refused Suarez's hand'...now there is one 'proving that Evans should of been sent off as well'....

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:47 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

A generally good Euro campaign? A tad embarrassing on your part. Got through the groups, knocked straight out. No greater than what Capello achieved and that was with the pressure off and expectations at an all time low.

We had low expectations because we had a poor squad, stripped even barer by injuries.

England went out undefeated. I think most pundits didn't think we'd make it out of the group.

As for AVB, I don't follow Spurs so I asked a general question (something you seemed to take exception to), thanks for your explanation but I want the one from the Spurs fan, not the Chelsea fan.

Whether a Chelsea fan, a Spurs fan, or a Martian, claiming that Spurs have a better team spirit than the Chelsea squad do is complete lunacy.

For the record, Dalglish had a poor year last year, I concede that, but you won't find a single Liverpool fan that would have swapped our dreadful last year for Roy. Uninspiring, clueless, moribund and quite simply my lowest point as a Liverpool fan. Results are one thing, what Roy was to our club went way beyond results.

You hated him from the start, hated him while he was there and will always hate him.

Doesn't alter the fact that his record throughout his career deserves a degree of respect. He's a decent manager, definitely not worthy of Liverpool anywhere near their peak, but there's no way he deserves the stick that LFC fans give him.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:50 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

LFC fans love a good twitter picture dont they? There was one going around 'proving it was Evra who refused Suarez's hand'...now there is one 'proving that Evans should of been sent off as well'....

The video proved that he should have.

The problem is that we don't have video refs, and no one (apart from very biased LFC fans) would have thought that Evans should have been sent off in real time.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:52 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Pity not all of it was from your fans. "Taken us as far he can", etc.

I must admit, I've been guilty of that, but mainly through the negativity of some of his tactics.

I do confess though, I wonder where we might be without Moyes, and believe we could easily have slipped into the Championship and beyond, under other managers.

I think what is refreshing about this season (and the end of last), is that we are now actually playing some decent stuff....Moyes finally seems confident in allowing his side to play and not simply stifling the opposition, something which most of us have been crying out for him to do for many years.