Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:22 am  

roofaldo2 wrote:

If WWE had had this "Your spot is where WE put you" mentality back in 1996, there'd be no Stone Cold Steve Austin. There'd be no Rock. Both those guys were allowed to go and get over with the fans and became mega stars.

Actually, I'd go one further. There'd be no WWE. They'd have been the ones to go out of business, probably followed by WCW and that would have been that. Wrestling as a spectacle would have died in the US and been reduced down to just the small indy shows.

Though, maybe that wouldn't have been such a bad thing, as it might have seen a return to the territory system and wrestlers actually learning their trade before being shoved infront of a camera with the same bland script as the last 6 guys.

Like I said, the lack of competition has ruined things.

WWE know they have the monopoly and full control of mainstream wrestling.

Like it or lump it is their approach, as they still know people will buy the PPV's and go to the shows as there is no real alternative.

Not sure about TNA, but I can never manage to watch it for longer than 5 minutes at a time.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:02 am  

andym1988 wrote:

Like I said, the lack of competition has ruined things.

WWE know they have the monopoly and full control of mainstream wrestling.

Like it or lump it is their approach, as they still know people will buy the PPV's and go to the shows as there is no real alternative.

Not sure about TNA, but I can never manage to watch it for longer than 5 minutes at a time.

TNA seems too much like 2000 WCW. There's no real threat to WWE from them and if they do start looking like they're improving, I'd not be surprised to see their top talent raided by WWE. There's also the none-competitive clause that WWE has with a number of the larger arenas around the US, which means they can call up and say "we don't want you running any other wrestling shows on these dates" which pretty much scuppers TNA's chances of getting into bigger arenas and getting their product seen by a wider audience.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:00 pm  

WWE comes to Leeds Arena for the first time on the 14th November for a Smackdown house show

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:09 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

There's also the none-competitive clause that WWE has with a number of the larger arenas around the US, which means they can call up and say "we don't want you running any other wrestling shows on these dates" which pretty much scuppers TNA's chances of getting into bigger arenas and getting their product seen by a wider audience.

Very clever move from the WWE bosses.

Basically they've got the arena groups over a barrell - we will fill your place out easy, but if you don't play by our rules we will go elsewhere.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:36 am  

A few pics from the Smackdown (Sheffield) and Raw (Nottingham) House Shows I have been to over the past 3 days: SD Raw

A few pics from the Smackdown (Sheffield) and Raw (Nottingham) House Shows I have been to over the past 3 days: SD Raw

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:41 pm  

andym1988 wrote:

Very clever move from the WWE bosses.

Basically they've got the arena groups over a barrell - we will fill your place out easy, but if you don't play by our rules we will go elsewhere.

Exactly. It stops anyone getting close to breaking WWE's monopoly on wrestling in the US. Monopolies are always a bad thing in any industry and that's clearly exacerbated when it comes to wrestling given WWE's current product.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:27 pm  

It's been announced on WWE.com that Cena has injured his Achilles tendon while on the European tour. Might be a work, but if it's not then WWE is in some serious cack as it's two top guys are now out injured for unspecified periods.

On the other hand, it could be a blessing in disguise as it means some of the mid-card might actually be given a shot at breaking the glass ceiling.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:18 pm  

roofaldo2 wrote:

It's been announced on WWE.com that Cena has injured his Achilles tendon while on the European tour. Might be a work, but if it's not then WWE is in some serious cack as it's two top guys are now out injured for unspecified periods.

On the other hand, it could be a blessing in disguise as it means some of the mid-card might actually be given a shot at breaking the glass ceiling.

This just proves how fundamentally stupid the WWE are.
They have buried how much talent to keep super Cena over? A guy who is quickly heading towards 40 no less, They should have been building new talent for years but instead of that they bury almost everyone to keep Cena at the top.
Shortsighted isn't the word for them but all Vince can see is $$$$$$.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:57 am  

correct, and once they've stopped these guys in their tracks in dramatic fashion, there is often little way back unless they are so over with the crowd it is impossible for them not to get to where they deserve

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:01 pm  

It seems the Cena thing is just a work so WWE can show how amazing Super Cena is by coming back from this injury in super fast time and totally burying Ryback and his nonsensical heel turn