: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:29 am  

Great second session last night. We need to get rid of Hussey ASAP tonight.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:47 am  

PAUL M wrote:

Shame we could not take anymore wickets after tea but the first hours tomorrow will be crucial, with the new ball if we can take a couple of quick wickets then we are back in business, anything under 300 will be good.

Only saw the first hour last night, was Broad threatening at all? How did Finn go, heard he was shaky? Swann seemed to take some stick too. If the aussies keep attacking him they could nulify him.

Haven't seen any of it except the wickets on BBC Breakfast News, but if you discount Swann's first over at the end of the first day (which went for 10) his economy rate is 2.5, so hardly "taking stick". Anderson & Broad both keeping it very tight too, in terms of runs conceded. They've already faced more overs than we did and are still forty adrift. Big morning session tomorrow with the new ball due immediately. We may still get a small first innings lead, although the Aussies will obviously be looking to push on past 300 with no real pressure to score quickly at this stage.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:45 am  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

Haven't seen any of it except the wickets on BBC Breakfast News, but if you discount Swann's first over at the end of the first day (which went for 10) his economy rate is 2.5, so hardly "taking stick". Anderson & Broad both keeping it very tight too, in terms of runs conceded. They've already faced more overs than we did and are still forty adrift. Big morning session tomorrow with the new ball due immediately. We may still get a small first innings lead, although the Aussies will obviously be looking to push on past 300 with no real pressure to score quickly at this stage.

One report I heard said Hussey had taken Swann on, maybe Swann cam back and had a better spell? Broad's economy is good but I wonder if he has actually looked like getting people out. New ball has already been taken, think it's only an over old though.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:27 am  

PAUL M wrote:

One report I heard said Hussey had taken Swann on, maybe Swann cam back and had a better spell? Broad's economy is good but I wonder if he has actually looked like getting people out. New ball has already been taken, think it's only an over old though.

Just read the BBc report, which states that Hussey "dominated Swann in what appeared a pre-determined policy". Hussey has scored his runs much faster than anyone else. I think Clarke took fifty balls to score nine runs and Haddin has scored slowly in the current partnership. Scorecard shows exactly 80 overs bowled, so unless that's incorrect the new ball won't have been taken yet. Snaring Hussey in the first hour tomorrow would appear to be the key. Even if Broad wasn't menacing today, a new day and a new ball could make all the difference; he's good enough.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:51 pm  

We'd just taken the new ball when the rain came.

Couple of early wickets tomorrow and it's game well and truly on, If we can set them 250+ to chase in the 4th innings we are well in with a chance.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:03 pm  

Showers expected to continue over the next 3 days, depends how heavy they are and when in the day they arrive as to how much time is going to be lost out of the game - if any.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:22 pm  

Prince of Denmark wrote:

Just read the BBc report, which states that Hussey "dominated Swann in what appeared a pre-determined policy". Hussey has scored his runs much faster than anyone else. I think Clarke took fifty balls to score nine runs and Haddin has scored slowly in the current partnership. Scorecard shows exactly 80 overs bowled, so unless that's incorrect the new ball won't have been taken yet. Snaring Hussey in the first hour tomorrow would appear to be the key. Even if Broad wasn't menacing today, a new day and a new ball could make all the difference; he's good enough.

The new ball was taken but maybe they took it and never actually bowled a ball with it as the rain came very soon after. I know Broad is good enough but from what I have seen he is bowling a tight line outside off stump without actually making them play. Tomorrow wickets are the crucial thing and I wonder if Finn will get the new ball with Anderson?

Like Andy Gilder says if we can set 200-250 in the 4th innings then we have a good chance and Swann might come into his own.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:37 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

I know Broad is good enough but from what I have seen he is bowling a tight line outside off stump without actually making them play.

Sounds like he may be bowling a fraction too short and the batsmen can be sure that even one moving in at them will pass over stump height. However, South Africa's entire fast bowling strategy over the last two decades has been similar to this and most batsmen will eventually try to force the pace and start chasing the ball, leading to edges behind.

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:41 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Like Andy Gilder says if we can set 200-250 in the 4th innings then we have a good chance and Swann might come into his own.

I'm happy to take the credit for most of Asim's contributions...

Re: SUPER ENGLAND ASHES TOUR : Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:47 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

I'm happy to take the credit for most of Asim's contributions...

Actually don't listen to that Gilder, Asim is your man