Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:28 am  

sanjunien wrote:

your lot deserve a good side -

Do they? Why?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:33 am  

What's your take on the Ashley Cole situation, LGJM? I know it's your policy to not offer more than 1 year to over 30's but if i was a Chelsea fan i'd be screaming at Roman to make an exception with Cole.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:43 am  

100% Wire wrote:

What's your take on the Ashley Cole situation, LGJM? I know it's your policy to not offer more than 1 year to over 30's but if i was a Chelsea fan i'd be screaming at Roman to make an exception with Cole.

I have no opinion on the situation, to be honest.

I think he's a great player, but I'm not sure if he's so great that he deserves the great money he's on. I think his injury situation needs to be known. From what I've seen of Bertrand I like, so I wouldn't be too concerned if we were to let Cole go and allow Bertrand to grow into the position.

Basically whatever CFC and Cole decide, I can accept it.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:47 am  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Classic scouse stupidity to compare a £7m, club record (?) signing with an out of window free agent.

You've missed the point fella, the fee is irrelevant, they still turned down Ba due to his injuiry record or him failing a medical whatever it might have been.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:49 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

You've missed the point fella, the fee is irrelevant, they still turned down Ba due to his injuiry record or him failing a medical whatever it might have been.

You're missing the point that £7m is a risk, £0 isn't

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:52 am  

getdownmonkeyman wrote:

I'm pretty sure Ba's knee problem got identified during his Stoke medical.

Sure, but wouldn't this knee problem have been identified during his medical at Newcastle given that it was a recurring one? In that case, Pulis passed and turned him down whilst Pardew didn't and accepted, no?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:56 am  

100% Wire wrote:

You're missing the point that £7m is a risk, £0 isn't

I know that. Either way Pulis has still got the wrong end of the bargain.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:59 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I know that. Either way Pulis has still got the wrong end of the bargain.

Aye, but isn't hindsight marvellous?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:10 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Sure, but wouldn't this knee problem have been identified during his medical at Newcastle given that it was a recurring one? In that case, Pulis passed and turned him down whilst Pardew didn't and accepted, no?

From memory, it was. Newcastle chose to take the gamble, Stoke didn't.

I think it says more about the financial risk profile of the respective clubs, than the player himself.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:12 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Sure, but wouldn't this knee problem have been identified during his medical at Newcastle given that it was a recurring one? In that case, Pulis passed and turned him down whilst Pardew didn't and accepted, no?

Stoke would have been buying him for over £7m.

Newcastle signed him on a free.

Stoke simply got unlucky because a quality player they were signing happened to have a worrying medical. Newcastle got lucky because they were able to snag that player on a free.

If Pardew had swooped in and paid the £7m when the Stoke deal collapsed then you may have a point. As he didn't, you don't.