Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:27 am  

The Angry Pirate wrote:

When you do manage to qualify you manage to make pricks of yourself, getting beat by Costa friggin' Rica and Peru!!!

Ach well, at least we console ourselves in the fact that we have never had a humiliating failure in the football World Cup twice in the same year before.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:31 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

Scotland can't even hold their own 'top flight' games this weekend.

Yep, due to extreme weather conditions. The same conditions that will wipe out much of the sport all over the UK. Therefore, what is your point?

Dan_FC wrote:

His avatar says it all 'Dundee United - Keep the faith!'

Again, what is your point? You are not one of these people that changes their side more than they change their pants are you and support whomever is winning?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:39 am  

Cracking performance from the worlds best keeper again last night. Is he releasing a xmas dvd?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:05 am  

The whole voting system is wrong, very worng. I don't understand how countries, in a fair bidding system can drop votes after round 1. Purely tactical voting that shouldn't really be allowed. It's not illegal, it just doesn't sit right. People on the FIFA Exec Commitee should not be "anti" any particular bid. There were members who were anti England and that is clear from the voting numbers.

What I do not understand is the small number who decide where the world cup is to be held. This encourages integrity laws to be breached. A dinner with the PM here, a friendly arranged there to secure votes. You can do that wih 24 members (before 2 were suspended) and that is legal. If that was upped to the full quota of FIFA international members (200 and odd) for example, it would surely lower the chance of "corruption" for want of a better word. Surely this would be fairer for the other nations to have a say too.

As far as the scottish debate goes, England on the whole doesn't really care about Scotland. Some of the bitter Jocks will be happy that we didn't get the World Cup and that's because they don't have much to celebrate in their own society. I was genuinely happy that Glasgow got the Commonwealth Games, and I would be routing for them to get a major tournament in any sport. As I see it it's on our door step and if, for example, Scotland and Ireland ever got the Euro's it would be great to have world class action that we can get to for relatively small cost and in a short space of time. The scots somehow relate this defeat to a failure to England as a football team, comparing Ryan Shawcross to Xavi for example (which is like comparing Steven Gerrard to someone like Francisco Punal). What has it got to do with our footballing ability? Are Qatar better than Spain all of a sudden? Despite the bitter nature towards our great country, I don't mind them they're harmless in sporting terms (but not when they threaten referees).

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:20 am  

RedTez wrote:

The scots somehow relate this defeat to a failure to England as a football team, comparing Ryan Shawcross to Xavi for example (which is like comparing Steven Gerrard to someone like Francisco Punal).

I didn't though. The point I was making is that the England bid claimed that the Premier League was home to the best players in the world. It isn't in the slightest. It was a nonsense of a thing to say.

RedTez wrote:

I don't mind them they're harmless in sporting terms (but not when they threaten referees).

That will be Celtic then. Don't tar us all with the same brush.

For the record, I am genuinely delighted that England never got it for a number of reasons, one of which is that they are already p!ssing away enough taxpayers money (in the middle of a cash crisis) on the bloody Olympics. Wasting more money in order to satisfy the deeply in debt FA should have been a non-starter.

There is, of course, the extra added bonus that the most smug and arrogant nation in the world have one again ended up with egg on their face and worldwide humiliation. It is sweet, and it will not just be the "jocks" who will be chuffed to bits.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:22 am  

Mark wrote:

Cracking performance from the worlds best kepper again last night. Is he releasing a xmas dvd?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:34 am  

Mark wrote:

Cracking performance from the worlds best keeper again last night. Is he releasing a xmas dvd?

Will you be unhappy if he signed for your shower then?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:44 am  

richardviking wrote:

Will you be unhappy if he signed for your shower then?

nah, massively overated.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:14 am  

mystic eddie wrote:

I didn't though. The point I was making is that the England bid claimed that the Premier League was home to the best players in the world. It isn't in the slightest. It was a nonsense of a thing to say.

My apologies, I was skim reading.

mystic eddie wrote:

That will be Celtic then. Don't tar us all with the same brush.

For the record, I am genuinely delighted that England never got it for a number of reasons, one of which is that they are already p!ssing away enough taxpayers money (in the middle of a cash crisis) on the bloody Olympics. Wasting more money in order to satisfy the deeply in debt FA should have been a non-starter.

There is, of course, the extra added bonus that the most smug and arrogant nation in the world have one again ended up with egg on their face and worldwide humiliation. It is sweet, and it will not just be the "jocks" who will be chuffed to bits.

I'm glad that England in failing to land the world cup for 2018 has delighted you, I really am. I would say the two most recent times I have been genuinely delighted was at the birth of my daughter and the contracts being signed for the City of Salford Stadium construction helping to secure the future of my club. If you take delight in seeing another nations bid to host a sporting event fail then that's just swell.

The bid has been a waste of money of that there is no doubt. In hindsight, we shouldn't have bothered as there was a hidden agenda on the part of the Executive Committee. I wouldn't say England have egg on their face. They, and the US & Australia to a certain extent, have shown FIFA up for what they are. A bunch of bent dinosaurs who are in it for their self interests.

You are clearly anti English and that is fine. We overpower you in the world of politics, finance, sport and social culture. I can see way you don't like us much. I hope for all these bitter Scottish folk they gain independence soon to see how they get on without the English putting an arm round them.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:40 am  

RedTez wrote:

My apologies, I was skim reading.

I'm glad that England in failing to land the world cup for 2018 has delighted you, I really am. I would say the two most recent times I have been genuinely delighted was at the birth of my daughter and the contracts being signed for the City of Salford Stadium construction helping to secure the future of my club. If you take delight in seeing another nations bid to host a sporting event fail then that's just swell.

The bid has been a waste of money of that there is no doubt. In hindsight, we shouldn't have bothered as there was a hidden agenda on the part of the Executive Committee. I wouldn't say England have egg on their face. They, and the US & Australia to a certain extent, have shown FIFA up for what they are. A bunch of bent dinosaurs who are in it for their self interests.

You are clearly anti English and that is fine. We overpower you in the world of politics, finance, sport and social culture. I can see way you don't like us much. I hope for all these bitter Scottish folk they gain independence soon to see how they get on without the English putting an arm round them.

Class.