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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:14 pm  
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The Brendan Rodgers era is up and running :lol:


Doing a great job imo.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:43 pm  
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Is it not a tad worrying that said opposition was a relegation candidate in most pundit's eyes?

How did Stevie G play today? Any signs that he's ever going to get it back? How did Borini do?


The first half wasn't so bad. We generally outplayed them, Suarez looked lively and it felt like we were the more likely to score. Gerrard, like a lot of the players, was very hot and cold. Getting involved and looking dangerous, only to play a pass five yards behind his team mate. It clearly wasn't the start we needed, the red card was daft, the second penalty unfortunate but it happens, I just don't want Rodgers to bury his head in the sand and think things will suddenly improve. Downing has been at this level for years, he is the epitome of mediocre, he really shouldn't waste any time hoping to fit him in. Carroll is similar, he isn't going to play so cut our losses and get rid, he is hopeless.

IMO, we are desperate for a striker. Suarez is capable of so much but he's lost his shooting boots since he's been here, the moment we find a good partner for him is the moment results like today become a thing of the past.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:58 pm  
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the moment we find a good partner for him is the moment results like today become a thing of the past.


Heard things like that for years from the red side of Merseyside. What was the excuse when Torres and Gerrard were upfront and you bombed the league by dropping points against the lesser teams in the league like Fulham, Wigan, West Brom etc? What was the excuse last year with the King in charge when you dropt points against teams like Fulham, Wigan and West Brom?
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:22 pm  
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Heard things like that for years from the red side of Merseyside. What was the excuse when Torres and Gerrard were upfront and you bombed the league by dropping points against the lesser teams in the league like Fulham, Wigan, West Brom etc? What was the excuse last year with the King in charge when you dropt points against teams like Fulham, Wigan and West Brom?


Obviously, I wasn't speaking so literally. Results like that will always happen, but the past few years they've been a too regular occurrence. The point I'm making is: with a better striker to partner Suarez, in a game like today where we start better, create more and look the better side, we'll capitalise on that play more often than not. We lack the mentality to kill teams off, whilst our defence hasn't been anywhere near strong enough to keep us in close games. That's not a view on today, that's a view on the past two/three seasons. I'm hoping things will change, but change doesn't take place until you get rid of the dire personnel. As shown today, Suarez was on fire for the majority of the first half, but you can't expect him to do everything offensively and score the goals, he needs support but he didn't get it today. I can accept Borini struggling, it's early doors for him and he'll have time to improve, but Downing is an established player who's never proven his consistency, Gerrard too is established and you can't accept sloppy play like today. Today was too much like last season, a combination of wasteful play, poor play and bad luck resulted in a dire result and overall poor performance. These 'reasons'/'excuses' have become so normal you start to wonder if it is bad luck. A game like today I would normally brush off as 'one of those days' where nothing goes in your favour, but I've seen that happen so often I have to question the attitude of the team.

I'm confident in Rodgers, I think he'll identify the problems and get rid, I just hope he does it sooner rather than later.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:41 pm  
And we are supposed to be going for the Champions League qualification places this season? Oh please.

First thing i will be doing in the morning is removing Pepe Reina from my fantasy league.

4th place? We'll be lucky to get into Europe again this season. I can sense yet another atrocious season on the horizon.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:53 am  
Fancy the Latics to get at least a point today. Quietly confident of a good season this year if we can build on the ending to last season. Our usual problem is the loss of our main players but that's not happened this year so hopefully the continuity will still be there and we'll pick up some good wins along the way to a mid table finish.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:33 am  
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And we are supposed to be going for the Champions League qualification places this season? Oh please.

First thing i will be doing in the morning is removing Pepe Reina from my fantasy league.

4th place? We'll be lucky to get into Europe again this season. I can sense yet another atrocious season on the horizon.

That's the spirit.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:43 am  
Would Liverpool fans take Michael Owen back? Could he be just what they need?
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:25 am  
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Would Liverpool fans take Michael Owen back?


If Roddy is any indication, no.

Could he be just what they need?


He's nearly 33 years old and has scored 5 goals in the last three years. I hope that Liverpool sign him even more than I hoped they'd sign Joe Cole.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:12 am  
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That's the spirit.


I'm not one of the blind followers thinking everything is going to be fabulous under Rodgers and that it's going to be our year. If things get turned around then fair play and I would love to be proved wrong. Don't get me wrong, I'm gutted about the result, but I don't think we have the ability to challenge for the top 4 and if you don't like me saying that, then that's your decision. I'm not apologising for what I think.
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