Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:11 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

The two are worlds apart. One was/is a world class manager who the fans knew was a world class coach, the other is a mediocre coach who is out of his depth at a club like us. He is the opposite of what we wanted to bring in to the club, a manager who is only in charge here because of his nationality and friendly relationship with the media. Rafa was here solely based on his ability to coach the team, as his relationship with the media and nationality all went against him in his time here.

Roy could have done with a hand from the owners, but he inherited a side good enough to beat Blackpool and a side good enough to at least compete in games.

Is that really true? Benitez spent millions on those players. I'll bet he spent more than Arsenal and even United in his time at Anfield. The squad he left was poor.

When a new man comes in, they will often appear to do worse simply because they are not his players and they do not fit his style. I honestly dont think Benitez would be doing much better than Hodgson and I think an awful lot of the negativity and bad feeling within the Liverpool club and it's fans came from Benitez and his constant moaning.

Hodgson isn't some inexperienced poster boy or yes man. He's a top class man manager who has coached some of the best players in the world during his career.

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:11 pm  

Ski wrote:

Just got in from Bloomfield Road. At the start of the day, if you'd have told me Pool would lose 2-3 to City, I would have snapped your hand off and licked the blood clean.

As the game went on, Pool showed the kind of spirit that have endeared them to so many neutrals.Campbell was unlucky with his effort. When Taylor-Fletcher scored it went fricken barmy. I haven't seen it back, but am sure there was no offside.

I will state my non existent mortgage on Teves being offside for his first goal though.

The difference in the game, Pool bringing on Harewood, City bringing on Silva.

Still, immensely proud of Blackpool. I know my late grandad would have loved them.

Tevez was offside for the first goal and Blackpool's goal was wrongly flagged.

Obviously I know City better than you but I never saw anything bar a struggle today. We just don't like it when teams get in amongst us.

Any talk of us challenging for the title is pie in the sky but talk of Blackpool staing up certainly isn't.

One thing this game proved is that our fringe players are not up to it. Our defence has been outstanding all season but throw Lescott in at centre half inside of Bridge at full back and it's a disaster waiting to happen/ Similalry, Adebayor is a joke now and we were ten times the team after Silva took his place.

Our first eleven is as good as anything out there, albeit in a boring kind of way, but beyond those eleven, then we struggle. With each passing week, it becomes more apparent that Mark Hughes was an utter clown when you handed him the chequebook.

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:12 pm  

Woy Out.

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:17 pm  

Ski wrote:

Just got in from Bloomfield Road. At the start of the day, if you'd have told me Pool would lose 2-3 to City, I would have snapped your hand off and licked the blood clean.

As the game went on, Pool showed the kind of spirit that have endeared them to so many neutrals.Campbell was unlucky with his effort. When Taylor-Fletcher scored it went fricken barmy. I haven't seen it back, but am sure there was no offside.

I will state my non existent mortgage on Teves being offside for his first goal though.

The difference in the game, Pool bringing on Harewood, City bringing on Silva.

Still, immensely proud of Blackpool. I know my late grandad would have loved them.

The dissalowed goal was pretty much 50/50 there was an offside player but i'm not sure he was interfearing with play, after the Gallas off side yesterday it was a goal allday.

Tevez was offside no question

Tevez clipped the defenders ankle in the build up to his second that was a definate free kick.

I feel sorry for pool as they played Citeh off the park and but for a couple of dodgy referees decisions city should not have won

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:17 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

City have used up a fair chunk of luck today if they hold on to this!

So far this season we've played well twice (Liverpool & chelsea), been ok once (wigan) and had 5 performances that were varying degrees of poor. Difficult to work out why we're 2nd

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:18 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

So far this season we've played well twice (Liverpool & chelsea), been ok once (wigan) and had 5 performances that were varying degrees of poor. Difficult to work out why we're 2nd

Overall standard of the Premier League slipping?

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:20 pm  

D.D. wrote:

Tevez was offside for the first goal and Blackpool's goal was wrongly flagged.

Obviously I know City better than you but I never saw anything bar a struggle today. We just don't like it when teams get in amongst us.

Any talk of us challenging for the title is pie in the sky but talk of Blackpool staing up certainly isn't.

One thing this game proved is that our fringe players are not up to it. Our defence has been outstanding all season but throw Lescott in at centre half inside of Bridge at full back and it's a disaster waiting to happen/ Similalry, Adebayor is a joke now and we were ten times the team after Silva took his place.

Our first eleven is as good as anything out there, albeit in a boring kind of way, but beyond those eleven, then we struggle. With each passing week, it becomes more apparent that Mark Hughes was an utter clown when you handed him the chequebook.

Nice honest appraisal.

On another point, how fricken good was Charlie Adam today?

And Silva's goal was a work of football class.

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:55 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Sacking him now is a real cautious move, whoever comes in won't be able to do much better for the time being, but Roy isn't going to get much better either. It could do massive damage for their image if they sack him immediately, much like the Klinsmann antics did for T+G (admittedly, Rafa was in a far greater position than Roy and didn't deserve that), but it's still a sketchy situation. I'd give some more time, but if things don't get better then I'd worry about him spending possible transfer funds in January, purely because he rates players like Poulsen and Konchesky, but not players like Aquilani.

You're second from bottom. You don't think, and have never thought, that Hodgson was the man for the job.

Screw image. The correct decision is to get Hodgson out the moment they can bring in someone from the top drawer. If Dalgleish would take a temporary position then I'd sack Hodgson now.

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:55 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Is that really true? Benitez spent millions on those players. I'll bet he spent more than Arsenal and even United in his time at Anfield. The squad he left was poor.

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I've never quite got the hero worship that Benitez got from the Liverpool fans....His record was a touch iffy if you ask me.

First season he managed the almost impossible in finishing below Everton, though he managed to fluke a Champions League, which glossed over the obvious poor quality of that 1st effort. He did have an excuse in that it was still pretty much Houllier's side.

From then on, with full control over the transfer dealings, he proceeded with a rather haphazard, kamikaze approach to buying and selling....Forwards came and went, almost has if he was hoping through sheer luck, rather than any judgement, to piece together a winning formula.

Then when he finally gets close to completing the jigsaw, he gets in a bizarre tiff with one of his best players (Alonso), whilst hunting a pretty mediocre player in Gareth Barry.

His whole tenure was pretty well summed up for me in the Robbie Keane episode....If Benitez was in any other business but football, he'd have been fired on the spot for his incompetence on this one....First off, 20 million on a player who was probably worth half of that, 3 months later he realises what a mistake he's made and proceeds to flog him back to Spurs for half of that figure....It was comical and summed up the man's limitations.

The man was very lucky that he had Hicks & Gillett playing the panto villains, allowing him to make mistakes that would have sunk other managers a lot earlier than he eventually went.

Re: Football Chat : Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:04 pm  

though he managed to fluke a Champions League

If that was all he had done then you might have a point but he took us to another Champions League final 2 years later and won an FA Cup in the middle thats the kind of success teams dream of.

As for Keane ask Rick Parry.