Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:57 pm  

back to back to back wrote:

Why?

Wright phillips has a better first touch, better ability to take on defenders and a better end product.

The only walcott has over his competition is finishing, he's a better finisher.

Walcott can't take on the defence. A drop of the right shoulder doesn't cut it at the top level.

Why - because he has pace that can frighten defences, like I said I am not a big fan but I don't rate SWP whatsoever and feel Walcott would have been a better option as would Johnson.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:13 pm  

Personally I'd have gone for Johnson instead of SWP, Parker ahead of Carrick and Dawson ahead of Upson, but they are all much of a muchness at international level anyway and if any of them had to play much part we'd have no chance.

The lack of depth in quality in our squad is pretty shocking really.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:30 pm  

Asim wrote:

The lack of depth in quality in our squad is pretty shocking really.

I don't know. What awesome depth do other teams have?

I think our reserves are as capable as any of the other top nations.

For example what other country will have a striker with the scoring record of crouch, on the bench? (he'll be on the bench IMO)

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:34 pm  

Asim wrote:

Personally I'd have gone for Johnson instead of SWP, Parker ahead of Carrick and Dawson ahead of Upson, but they are all much of a muchness at international level anyway and if any of them had to play much part we'd have no chance.

The lack of depth in quality in our squad is pretty shocking really.

Exactly. People are having a whinge about squad players at the end of the day. The main 14 or 15 players (and starting 11) are in the squad and pick themselves.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:49 pm  

Hopefully Upson, Carrick and Heskey will get as little game time as possible.

Upson has looked terrible past few times he has played for England, and if he plays against a decent team they will have a field day as if he gets the ball to his feet he doesn't know what to do with it.

Don't rate Carrick and haven't since he left Tottenham, he isn't a big game player and I feel he is in the squad more due to the fact he plays for a big club.

Heskey's scoring record is terrible for a striker, and just because he is a big lump that some countries 'will never have experienced his type before so he will cause problems', doesn't make him a good footballer.

Don't think SWP is international class but he's usually reliable enough to do a steady job, gives 150% and won't let anyone down if called upon. I think he may surprise a few, as apparently he wants to show what he could've done when Sven overlooked him when he was in better form (according to his dad, anyway). Would've been nice to see Adam Johnson in there though, he is a tricky little player. He'll get his chance one day, though.

Rest of squad I suppose picks it self in a way. Would have liked to have seen Ashley Young given a chance in the friendlies as part of the 30 man squad though.

For the first game I would go with;

Hart

Carragher
Terry
Ferdinand
A Cole

Lennon
Barry
Lampard
J Cole

Gerrard

Rooney


Joe Cole is the closest we have to a natural left sided attacking midfielder, Gerrard is wasted there. Barry can anchor the midfield. Carragher is a far superior defender to Johnson, unless a fullback can defend you will always get found out on the world stage. If it all goes tits up, go back to 4-4-2 and throw Crouch on in place of whichever midfielder isn't pulling their weight.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:02 pm  

I can see us going out on penalties in either the quarters or the semis.

I mean, who can we rely on to score penalties in a shootout?

Rooney will score
Ashley cole will score
Defoe would score

Crouch, Heskey? wouldn't fancy them.

Gerrard and lampard are hit and miss. Score em in premier league, miss in a penalty shootout for england.

You're then down to no one.

It's a major issue because if we get past the group stage, at some point or another it probably will go to penalties.

If you look at lampards against japan, it was just poor technique. It was low, wasn't especially powerful, and it was in that ''hey, save me'' area between the middle of the goal, and right in the corner.

Our players have to be able to them, either in the top corner, or right into the side netting/bottom corner. They are unsaveable.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:18 pm  

back to back to back wrote:

I can see us going out on penalties in either the quarters or the semis.

I mean, who can we rely on to score penalties in a shootout?

Rooney will score
Ashley cole will score
Defoe would score

Crouch, Heskey? wouldn't fancy them.

Gerrard and lampard are hit and miss. Score em in premier league, miss in a penalty shootout for england.

You're then down to no one.

It's a major issue because if we get past the group stage, at some point or another it probably will go to penalties.

If you look at lampards against japan, it was just poor technique. It was low, wasn't especially powerful, and it was in that ''hey, save me'' area between the middle of the goal, and right in the corner.

Our players have to be able to them, either in the top corner, or right into the side netting/bottom corner. They are unsaveable.

You can't pick a team based on penalty taking ability. Play our best XI if it comes down to a shootout we will be in the same boat as most other teams. 2 or 3 players you would really fancy then a few iffy ones.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:23 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

You can't pick a team based on penalty taking ability. Play our best XI if it comes down to a shootout we will be in the same boat as most other teams. 2 or 3 players you would really fancy then a few iffy ones.

I never suggested we should.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:27 pm  

back to back to back wrote:

I never suggested we should.

Seems odd to pick it up as a major issue then ramble on about it if that isn't your way of thinking. Pretty much every team in the tournament is in the same boat as us on this. If a game goes to penalties we have just as much chance as anyone, maybe more given a few of the team took penalties in the CL Final the other year.

Re: FIFA World Cup 2010 : Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:36 pm  

Milner doesn't miss many penalties.