: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:23 pm  

Yes, and he's been overtaken by Higgins and a 7th round pick from last year called Chaz Schilens, arguably the worst starting player on Madden 09.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:21 am  

Schrödinger's Cat wrote:

IMO, the best players ATM in Oakland are:

Asomugha (CB)
Morrison (LB)
Miller (TE)
McFadden (RB)

Look for Johnnie Lee Higgins to show himself more this year as well, he's an extremely dangerous returner, imagine a Devin Hester who can actually play WR.


Rumours that New England are going to trade for Derrick Burgess as well, Imo we should take nothing lower than a 2nd round pick, or at least ask for a quality lineman or CB in return as well as picks.

Never are you getting a 2nd rounder for him.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:27 am  

Schrödinger's Cat wrote:

Yes, and he's been overtaken by Higgins and a 7th round pick from last year called Chaz Schilens, arguably the worst starting player on Madden 09.

I used to quite like Walker when he played for us. I remeber him having an amazing game against Indy one year. Then he went crap, demanded a new contract/trade and ended up at Denver.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:30 am  

The two players that most impress me in Oakland are Miller and Asa. Miller is a top, top tight end who impresses me whenever I see him. Asa is class. Simple as that - the best at what he does. He shuts off one side of the field, the problem is, the other side is like an open plain on the Serengeti.

They have other good players too (as mentioned Morrison, D-Mac etc), but they don't help themselves in the draft. This years first pick signifies all of what is wrong with Al Davis' obsession with the 40 time. Speed over production. Even last year, when they picked up a talented guy like McFadden, they ignored issues in the trenches to go with glamour. They had a decent running game already, but went and got a RB anyway. The other thing is that I do not rate Russell. He's gash. Garcia was a shrewd pick up, but there's no way he'll beat Russell to the starting job. I would love Oakland to improve to make the AFC West stronger, but there are fundamental flaws throughout the franchise.

For some reason, I don't have the same bad feelings towards the Raiders as I do the other AFC West teams. I think it's sympathy over what the fans of a great franchise have had to put up with under Al - the man who once took them to greatness but now can't let go. KC will come good again, Denver probably will (after they see that McDaniels has set the franchise back 4 years or so), but in Oakland, it's totally dependant on when Mr Davis hangs up his proverbial gloves (likely to be when he dies).

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:58 am  

RedTez wrote:

For some reason, I don't have the same bad feelings towards the Raiders as I do the other AFC West teams. I think it's sympathy over what the fans of a great franchise have had to put up with under Al - the man who once took them to greatness but now can't let go. KC will come good again, Denver probably will (after they see that McDaniels has set the franchise back 4 years or so), but in Oakland, it's totally dependant on when Mr Davis hangs up his proverbial gloves (likely to be when he dies).

Al Davis will NEVER die. He is immortal.

I think they have a shout at getting second in the division.

San Diego could win that division by playing Rivers with a blindfold on and tie LT's shoes together.

Oakland i think second in the division.

KC third. Cassell will be shown up for the poor player he is. Johnson will break down and other than that they have Dwayne Bowe who can be covered. Defensively they are crap, they are going to 3-4 but apart from the first pick they have no players for that scheme.

Denver. Simply terrible. Average QB. Marshall wants to be traded. Ridiculous trading policy. They got Alfonso Smith (CB) in round two for next years first which is likely top 5 pick. Defence has been poor for years in Denver and they have managed to completely destroy the offence. Moreno is the only highlight. Lucky to get to 5 wins.

: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:33 am  

I agree Conroy, but don't think that finishing 2nd in the AFC West is an accomplishment. I think 6-10 could get you the 2nd spot this year. They play the NFC East and NFC North teams this year - far from easy.

: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:46 am  

Denver are a joke, look's like Marshall wants out now as well. Boylan has been a great owner but it's all blown up in his face. I'd like to see Marshall end up in Miami but he won't, it would be a good fit in Chicago for obvious reasons but can't see them taking a chance.

: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:08 am  

Marshall to Miami would be excellent, we need some decent recievers... Ginn, Bess and Camarillo are ok but not world beaters for sure...

: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:47 am  

Get Marshall to New England infact get everyone to New England theres plenty of super bowl rings to go around


Brandon Marshall is quality but off the field he seems to be a complete numpty for some reason!

: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:10 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

Get Marshall to New England infact get everyone to New England theres plenty of super bowl rings to go around


Brandon Marshall is quality but off the field he seems to be a complete numpty for some reason!

Marshall to the Titans would do me.