FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Michael Maguire
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player125No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 14 20204 years287th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Jan 24 20:0717th Jan 24 20:03LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Michael Maguire : Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:00 am  
TonyM19 wrote:
MIchael Maguire looks like somebody who can make a step change to a club in terms of performance, attitude etc. They make an impact, but that style of management is hard to sustain and work under for any length of time. Having said that, I think he would be a good fit here for a couple of years.


Exactly this IMO. Maguire is a first class change manager, and exactly what we need (again), as sadly much of what he brought in performance structures and attitude has been lost. IMO he could get even the current average squad back to the top of SL...then look for someone who could maintain and build upon that longer term.

Personally, my preference would be for Madge with SOL as his assistant, grooming lockers for the top job in 2-3 years time. I would be much more confident in that than the cheap options of peet, winder etc with wane overseeing it in some sort of consultant role! The fact you would need wane / another individual there tells you all you need to know. For everything they may have done within the club, they do not have the required level of experience to coach at the top level in SL. If Peet / winder are serious about this they really need to pick up a head coach role in league one or the championship and earn their stripes IMO.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7438No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 14 200519 years168th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Feb 24 13:2825th Feb 24 13:26LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Michael Maguire : Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:47 pm  
afootingmiracle21-12 wrote:
Exactly this IMO. Maguire is a first class change manager, and exactly what we need (again), as sadly much of what he brought in performance structures and attitude has been lost. IMO he could get even the current average squad back to the top of SL...then look for someone who could maintain and build upon that longer term.

Personally, my preference would be for Madge with SOL as his assistant, grooming lockers for the top job in 2-3 years time. I would be much more confident in that than the cheap options of peet, winder etc with wane overseeing it in some sort of consultant role! The fact you would need wane / another individual there tells you all you need to know. For everything they may have done within the club, they do not have the required level of experience to coach at the top level in SL. If Peet / winder are serious about this they really need to pick up a head coach role in league one or the championship and earn their stripes IMO.


I’m for Mags but then advocating for SOL does your point about Peets experience no good. SOL is also part of this debacle, he also has no other coaching experience. What makes you think he’d be a good Wigan coach after 2-3yrs? His playing career? We all know that’s not indicative of coaching finesse.

FWIW I am inclined to agree re Peet/Winder. However I also don’t profess to know the future so I will be giving them my full backing.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player511
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 17 20203 years108th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 13:2822nd Mar 24 13:04LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
I have become , comfortably numb.

Re: Michael Maguire : Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:25 pm  
I think a lot of the comments on here are based on sentiment. As an avid watcher of the NRL, Maguire looks shot, the documentary "Tales From Tiger Town" at times is painful to watch, when you see just how his players respond to their coach's pleas, they have totally under performed and his signings have proved a disaster, in the main part. I agree there is no comparison in terms of standard, the NRL is years ahead of SL, but I would have thought Shaun Wane would be the obvious choice to return, what we wouldn't give for him over at Hull is nobody's business.
jaws1 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1004
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 18 200618 years288th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 07:1725th Mar 24 20:59LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Michael Maguire : Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:25 pm  
100% Warrior wrote:
I’m for Mags but then advocating for SOL does your point about Peets experience no good. SOL is also part of this debacle, he also has no other coaching experience. What makes you think he’d be a good Wigan coach after 2-3yrs? His playing career? We all know that’s not indicative of coaching finesse.

FWIW I am inclined to agree re Peet/Winder. However I also don’t profess to know the future so I will be giving them my full backing.

Winder is the backs coach and has been for years even under Wane we could not break though from the 20 metre line hope he is replaced.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7438No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 14 200519 years168th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Feb 24 13:2825th Feb 24 13:26LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Michael Maguire : Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:37 pm  
jaws1 wrote:
Winder is the backs coach and has been for years even under Wane we could not break though from the 20 metre line hope he is replaced.


I think you may have misunderstood me. I agree with the OP on his concerns with regards to Peet but I will still back him as Head Coach - if that comes to fruition. I think we’re assuming Winder will stay when there’s no real guarantee he does.

For me there needs to be a full coaching clear out for a full refresh but equally I understand what IFL says about that and the issues it brings as well as financial implications in a time where we need every penny we can get. But as the old saying goes “you’ve got to speculate to accumulate” and though there’s never a guarantee a refresh would bring success, it would put more bums on seats in an instant. There’s a page on Facebook called Wigan Rugby League History which posts clips daily of years gone by, that were not so long ago, with near enough sell out crowds. I can’t help but feel that our coaching set up, as well as our playing staff, have a huge impact on crowd numbers and looking at us on paper we look demonstrably weaker next season than we do this.

I still hold the belief the future is bright and that may sound almost paradoxical. I just feel splashing the cash in our coaching department with a few shrewd signings will do us the world of good both on the field and in the crowds.
Previous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: adi, Barrett was robbed, bazdev, Cherry_&_White, jonh, Jukesays, leg_end, LesG, MadDogg, Mark_P1973, post, Zig and 389 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10m
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
18m
Saints a
Mark_P1973
22
24m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
ComeOnYouUll
351
28m
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
43m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
ComeOnYouUll
126
Recent
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Builth Wells
15
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
34275
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55989
Recent
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 6
steamy
32
Recent
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
Khlav Kalash
24
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
Fevround 2
Wollo-Wollo-
89
42s
Smith - should he stay or should he go
ComeOnYouUll
351
49s
New Super League shirts in time for Christmas
The Curtism
114
50s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Jack Burton
8703
58s
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
1380
1m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 6
steamy
32
1m
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
1386
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Tarquin Fueg
405
1m
Halifax H
Maccbull_Big
32
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Septimius Se
2
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
TODAY
Saints a
Mark_P1973
22
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
Fartown58
6
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
Khlav Kalash
24
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
Rockinhorse
21
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Builth Wells
15
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
post
4
TODAY
RL Podcast
AgbriggAmble
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
499
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
629
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
551
Warrington Demolish London For..
662
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
707
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
687
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
934
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
906
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1051
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1023
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1076
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1067
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3839
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1189
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1067
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist