Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:10 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Is it not is own doing?

He has the option of playing Bullock and Clarke more than he does.

He could move Isa back into the pack and pick Hanley or Halsall more often.

Fully agree but even if he does that, I’m not convinced it’s good enough and that’s why I say it’s not all his own doing but he takes a huge portion of blame for me.

The points you make about Clark, Bullock, Isa and his lack of trust in young backs is bob on. If I picked a side when all three are available, they’d all be in my 17 and they’d all be playing in the pack.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:33 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Is it not is own doing?

He has the option of playing Bullock and Clarke more than he does.

He could move Isa back into the pack and pick Hanley or Halsall more often.

I've mentioned his a couple of times before about Lam saying player X pulled out last minute etc. When I knew day before wor earlier

Same thing again for Gildart, was told he wasn't playing, then when named we were astonished, and then obviously not astonished when he didn't play.

For Lam to not have a plan etc for that scenario when he knew Gildart was a massive risk is astonishing, never mind if he didn't know the rules

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:01 am  

Jukesays wrote:

I've mentioned his a couple of times before about Lam saying player X pulled out last minute etc. When I knew day before wor earlier

Same thing again for Gildart, was told he wasn't playing, then when named we were astonished, and then obviously not astonished when he didn't play.

For Lam to not have a plan etc for that scenario when he knew Gildart was a massive risk is astonishing, never mind if he didn't know the rules

When you factor in he has played so many players out of position (Some when he needed to and some when he didn't), the reluctance to re-shuffle and start Bullock is baffling.

Hanley and Halsall on wing when they are Full back and Centre
Hastings at Full back and Hooker
Shorrocks at Hooker
Isa at Centre

To name a few

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:09 am  

Jukesays wrote:

I've mentioned his a couple of times before about Lam saying player X pulled out last minute etc. When I knew day before wor earlier

Same thing again for Gildart, was told he wasn't playing, then when named we were astonished, and then obviously not astonished when he didn't play.

For Lam to not have a plan etc for that scenario when he knew Gildart was a massive risk is astonishing, never mind if he didn't know the rules

With a full season's hindsight it's pretty obvious Lam's Plan A was give it to French and hope he could work his magic
No French = No Plan

[Pemps]

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:17 pm  

nathan_rugby wrote:

When you factor in he has played so many players out of position (Some when he needed to and some when he didn't), the reluctance to re-shuffle and start Bullock is baffling.

Hanley and Halsall on wing when they are Full back and Centre
Hastings at Full back and Hooker
Shorrocks at Hooker
Isa at Centre

To name a few

I have no real issue with Hanley and Halsall playing wing. There's history of young backs being blooded on the wing regardless of where their natural position in the back line is. What I doing have an issue with is Lam happily flogging the young lads in the middle of the pitch, but he's been reluctant to play the young backs. Instead taking the option to move our better second row players into the centres. Also playing every Tom, Dick or Harry at fullback instead of Hanley.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:45 pm  

Pemps wrote:

I have no real issue with Hanley and Halsall playing wing. There's history of young backs being blooded on the wing regardless of where their natural position in the back line is. What I doing have an issue with is Lam happily flogging the young lads in the middle of the pitch, but he's been reluctant to play the young backs. Instead taking the option to move our better second row players into the centres. Also playing every Tom, Dick or Harry at fullback instead of Hanley.

Agreed, i think for the most part Hanley and Halsall have covered wing pretty well when given the chance. Hanley second stint in the team not early season i mean.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:49 am  

Pemps wrote:

I have no real issue with Hanley and Halsall playing wing. There's history of young backs being blooded on the wing regardless of where their natural position in the back line is. What I doing have an issue with is Lam happily flogging the young lads in the middle of the pitch, but he's been reluctant to play the young backs. Instead taking the option to move our better second row players into the centres. Also playing every Tom, Dick or Harry at fullback instead of Hanley.

I can’t help but feel your young forwards are being flogged to death and are likely to burn out. They don’t have the bulk to play against mature forwards week in week out. Clubs owe a duty of care to their players and I’m not sure that is evident here.
On a different note I saw a comparison on here between what happened to Fielden and how Bateman is at present. I certainly hope the blip is temporary (wearing my England hat) and not Fielden like!

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:54 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

I can’t help but feel your young forwards are being flogged to death and are likely to burn out. They don’t have the bulk to play against mature forwards week in week out. Clubs owe a duty of care to their players and I’m not sure that is evident here.
On a different note I saw a comparison on here between what happened to Fielden and how Bateman is at present. I certainly hope the blip is temporary (wearing my England hat) and not Fielden like!

Spot on, shame the guy picking the team can't see it

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:21 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

I can’t help but feel your young forwards are being flogged to death and are likely to burn out. They don’t have the bulk to play against mature forwards week in week out. Clubs owe a duty of care to their players and I’m not sure that is evident here.
On a different note I saw a comparison on here between what happened to Fielden and how Bateman is at present. I certainly hope the blip is temporary (wearing my England hat) and not Fielden like!

It is sadly true.

We have lost Flower & George Burgess. Clubb has been banned/injured most of the season, Bullock is either not selected or gets 10-20 minutes per game and Clarke never plays.

We are therefore down to one senior player, minimal support from Clubb/Bullock/Clarke and the reliance of Havard, Partington & Byrne in the front row.

Its a joke.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:33 pm  

Pemps wrote:

I have no real issue with Hanley and Halsall playing wing. There's history of young backs being blooded on the wing regardless of where their natural position in the back line is. What I doing have an issue with is Lam happily flogging the young lads in the middle of the pitch, but he's been reluctant to play the young backs. Instead taking the option to move our better second row players into the centres. Also playing every Tom, Dick or Harry at fullback instead of Hanley.

And then when Hanley played there and had a great game he was dropped the following week.