Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:05 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

If Leeds Cas and HKR win their remaining games and we lose ours it's going down to fractions of % points

Cancel that HKR play Cas next week so we'll probably scrape in whatever

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:06 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Hull KR play both Cas and Leeds in their last 2 so that isn't happening.

Yep, just checked the fixture list Looks like we'll have to suffer an extra week of this

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:36 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

Wigan just don't look like a team who do any attack work in training.

It's bewildering how average they are with ball in hand, especially given what a lethal presence Lammy was when he was on the field.

It's almost as if the Hail Mary Ball is now deemed a viable part of our attacking repertoire. Or perhaps the ONLY part.

I loved Lammy the player, but I'm really glad he's leaving the coaching role. This team look so undrilled in attack that it's untrue.

That’s probably a big part of the problem, we don’t. The past 2 1/2 months we’ve played pretty much every 5 days. Between games that’s 1 day rehab, 1 day rest, 1 day fitness and video and 1 day training. Not enough.

I actually feel a little bit positive after that. We now have a whole week between games to try and fix things up in training. We weren’t outplayed and have them as few chances as they gave us. Discipline and error count was much improved. Taken back to the bare bones we were beaten by the bounce of the ball off a skewed kick.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:40 pm  

Turns out we lost a sub as Joe Bullock came in on the bench late. Gildart's replacement needed to go straight into the starting line up apparently. Bizarre rule.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:42 pm  

Kev Brown made an interesting point in studio about Hastings and our attack. He said he felt Hastings was one of the best halves in the world but said he is so competitive and demanding that if anything, he’s getting his hands on the ball too often and is fatigued because he’s willing to do the donkey work of carting the ball in. He said Smith and Hardaker need to demand more ball and ease the burden on Hastings. I thought it was an excellent point.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:43 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Kev Brown made an interesting point in studio about Hastings and our attack. He said he felt Hastings was one of the best halves in the world but said he is so competitive and demanding that if anything, he’s getting his hands on the ball too often and is fatigued because he’s willing to do the donkey work of carting the ball in. He said Smith and Hardaker need to demand more ball and ease the burden on Hastings and it made a lot of sense.

I’d wholeheartedly agree with that. Said the same to a Leeds fan who was sat next to me.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:58 pm  

Hardaker again showing he’s brilliant in our half but has no impact whatsoever on our attack inside our opponents red zone.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:59 pm  

Cbr1000rr wrote:

Why does hastings not bloody grubber that close to the line instead of that nothing lob kick

How many nothing lob kicks to Hallsall/Bibby side did we do?

Just embarrassing today, can’t wait for the year to be over.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:59 pm  

Trainman wrote:

That’s probably a big part of the problem, we don’t. The past 2 1/2 months we’ve played pretty much every 5 days. Between games that’s 1 day rehab, 1 day rest, 1 day fitness and video and 1 day training. Not enough.

I actually feel a little bit positive after that. We now have a whole week between games to try and fix things up in training. We weren’t outplayed and have them as few chances as they gave us. Discipline and error count was much improved. Taken back to the bare bones we were beaten by the bounce of the ball off a skewed kick.

There's no doubt that opening try was ridiculously fortuitous for Warrington, but we didn't make enough chances of our own. How often were we actually in the sort of attacking position that saw Havard stroll in?

Can't have been more than a couple the whole match.

Re: Squad for Wire (Magic) : Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:40 pm  

[quote="NickyKiss"]Kev Brown made an interesting point in studio about Hastings and our attack. He said he felt Hastings was one of the best halves in the world but said he is so competitive and demanding that if anything, he’s getting his hands on the ball too often and is fatigued because he’s willing to do the donkey work of carting the ball in. He said Smith and Hardaker need to demand more ball and ease the burden on Hastings. I thought it was an excellent point.[/

His kicking is the worst I’ve ever seen. At times appalling at others as predictable as time itself.Predicable and consistently poor in the extreme. In 2 years has anything ever come off one of his kicks? For a “world class” player a major part of a prerequisite for the role is non existent therefore, I class him as as hard working but uninspiring. If he’s still playing to the coaches instructions then it’s even worse.

Without him we are in Leigh’s sphere but we need to get used to it. That’s how bad we are.

Smith needs to grow a pair and tell him to do one and demand as much of the ball that Hastings does.
Smith may not make it but if I’m him at least I’d have a dig.
Difficult in the extreme for a young lad but he needs to make his stamp or he’ll probably never recover
2 games Smithy to tell Lam to go and shoite and Hastings to acknowledge that you are as important as he is.

Have you got a pair Smithy???