Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:35 am  

Pie Eyed wrote:

Serious question - If you're anti- the anti-racism gesture/message, does that make you a racist?

I would say "Yes", and that you're not the type of fan who will be missed.

Only just seen this.

I went into depth a while back, I'm not against anti-racism. Just because you don't support something doesn't mean you are against it. It's like having a badge to say you are not homophobic, so on that basis people who don't wear the badge are homophobic are they? What tosh and its the same with this.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:43 am  

post wrote:

Only just seen this.

I went into depth a while back, I'm not against anti-racism. Just because you don't support something doesn't mean you are against it. It's like having a badge to say you are not homophobic, so on that basis people who don't wear the badge are homophobic are they? What tosh and its the same with this.

Your position isn't that though is it?

What your actually saying is, your refusing to be served or buy a product from the person wearing that Anti Homophobia badge.
If you went to a restaurant, or a pub, etc and one of the staff or the pub itself displayed an Anti Homophobia message would you refuse to eat/drink or buy a product from there?

Making an analogy doesn't mean that your analogy is accurate

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:49 am  

post wrote:

Pie Eyed wrote:

Serious question - If you're anti- the anti-racism gesture/message, does that make you a racist?

I would say "Yes", and that you're not the type of fan who will be missed.

Only just seen this.

I went into depth a while back, I'm not against anti-racism. Just because you don't support something doesn't mean you are against it. It's like having a badge to say you are not homophobic, so on that basis people who don't wear the badge are homophobic are they? What tosh and its the same with this.

Was about to write pretty much exactly what Jukes has written I.e. 'presumably you wouldn't boycott anyone who wears a pride badge?'

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:48 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Your position isn't that though is it?

What your actually saying is, your refusing to be served or buy a product from the person wearing that Anti Homophobia badge.
If you went to a restaurant, or a pub, etc and one of the staff or the pub itself displayed an Anti Homophobia message would you refuse to eat/drink or buy a product from there?

Making an analogy doesn't mean that your analogy is accurate

If I ran a pub, resaurant or business and somebody turned up for work displaying any form of support for a politcal cause then I would ask them to remove said paraphernalia regardless of what they supported.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:53 pm  

It isn't political. HTH

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:00 pm  

post wrote:

If I ran a pub, resaurant or business and somebody turned up for work displaying any form of support for a politcal cause then I would ask them to remove said paraphernalia regardless of what they supported.

Thats not what I asked
Are you saying you would not attend, purchase, frequent etc any venue, business, product if that particular business displayed an anti homophobia, racism, etc message?

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:11 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

It isn't political. HTH

You know us as a club can show we are not racists by not being racists and punishing any racist comments or actions commited by fans, staff and players alike. But in the 30 years of me going to games I've never once heard any form of racist slur or abuse. In fact I'd say rugby league always has been a very tolerant sport both fans and players alike because we as a sport have always been outcasts anyway when compared to football, cricket, union etc.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:17 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Thats not what I asked
Are you saying you would not attend, purchase, frequent etc any venue, business, product if that particular business displayed an anti homophobia, racism, etc message?

You just said just because I used an analogy doesn't make it right and are making your own point with an analogy.

If I went to Galloways every Saturday for a pie barm and then all of a sudden they stopped concetrating on making pies, got all political and started preaching about political struggles then I'd go to Greenalghs.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm  

post wrote:

You just said just because I used an analogy doesn't make it right and are making your own point with an analogy.

If I went to Galloways every Saturday for a pie barm and then all of a sudden they stopped concetrating on making pies, got all political and started preaching about political struggles then I'd go to Greenalghs.

If Galloways had a sticker on their window that said we support LGBT would you stop going there?

With regards to taking knee, are you saying Wigan's BAME players are preaching about political struggles? It isn't political, its their lives, their upbringing, their experiences.

Re: Fans forum - Tuesday 31 August : Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:43 pm  

post wrote:

You know us as a club can show we are not racists by not being racists and punishing any racist comments or actions commited by fans, staff and players alike. But in the 30 years of me going to games I've never once heard any form of racist slur or abuse. In fact I'd say rugby league always has been a very tolerant sport both fans and players alike because we as a sport have always been outcasts anyway when compared to football, cricket, union etc.

In this simple view, if everyone who was not racist continued doing so and didn't go to extra efforts to try to make a difference then nothing would change...