Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:40 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I wondered if I was missing something in this taking us closer to the edge but isn’t this the NRL clubs backing the decision the NRL clubs made last week? Basically the ARL and NZRL took their instruction from the NRL big wigs, let us stew for a week and as we threaten going over the top of them to invite Maori and Aboriginal teams in to the comp, they come back with a statement from all the clubs.

That July World Cup should solve it all anyway.

That's exactly what it is, the NRL clubs are saying they agree with the decision that they got the ARLC to announce for them last week. They are are agreeing with themselves and using this statement to put further pressure on players whom had been putting their hands up to play for other national teams or as part of Indigenous/Maori teams.

The WC should absolutely not be moved as that would be giving them what they want. They will only weasel out of a delayed tournament anyway. They cannot be trusted.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:12 pm  

I honestly don’t see the NRL wanting the players to tour here for the next 5+ years, so I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them on putting it back to next year. One way or another we’ll probably need to work out a way of going over the top of them if internationals are to continue in this country in that period.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:56 pm  

So RLWC21 has finally decided to postpone the competition until 2022. At least we know who runs global rugby league now. Even the UK government accepts defeat. Only one thing can make me feel remotely happy about this and that is to win the mens competition next year ….. if indeed it does go ahead. As an RL nation we have been embarrassed.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:09 pm  

Then they should firm up some dates next year ASAP, and say to the Aussie and NZ authorities, will you commit here and now to full access to all NRL players for the World Cup. If they are going to (effectively) force the rest of the world to postpone, the least they can do is to offer some kind of guarantee that further objections won't be made next year, as a gesture of goof faith.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:41 pm  

moto748 wrote:

Then they should firm up some dates next year ASAP, and say to the Aussie and NZ authorities, will you commit here and now to full access to all NRL players for the World Cup. If they are going to (effectively) force the rest of the world to postpone, the least they can do is to offer some kind of guarantee that further objections won't be made next year, as a gesture of goof faith.

Summer 2022. After the commonwealth games. That should be the date. We should not be considering in any way going up against, or going close to the FIFA World Cup. What should have been, and still could be, a promising tournament would be a mere footnote in the media.

But I’ll bet my bottom dollar if we did that the NRL would have a hissy fit. Funny that.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:59 pm  

The game here doesn’t have the balls to call for a UK summer World Cup next year unfortunately but in the words of Kevin Keegan “I’d love it, love it” if they did. It’ll be the safest time most likely with schools out and the Aussie players should be able to spend more time outdoors in the decent weather (maybe), which will be fabulous for their mental health and general well being and that’s what this is all about yeah?!

Honest truth-I’ve given up on the World Cup or any internationals involving the Aussies and probably Kiwis over here for five plus years. They won’t come in 2022, not a chance IMO. The only way it’s a possibility is to get them tied in to a water tight contract they can’t get out of, whereby they’re liable for millions if they pull out again.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:27 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The game here doesn’t have the balls to call for a UK summer World Cup next year unfortunately but in the words of Kevin Keegan “I’d love it, love it” if they did. It’ll be the safest time most likely with schools out and the Aussie players should be able to spend more time outdoors in the decent weather (maybe), which will be fabulous for their mental health and general well being and that’s what this is all about yeah?!

Honest truth-I’ve given up on the World Cup or any internationals involving the Aussies and probably Kiwis over here for five plus years. They won’t come in 2022, not a chance IMO. The only way it’s a possibility is to get them tied in to a water tight contract they can’t get out of, whereby they’re liable for millions if they pull out again.

They’re as likely come over in Summer as they are to sign that mate but joking aside I completely agree. RL’s decline has an awful lot to do with their (NRL) half heartedness towards the international game - I mean what is it 4/5 tests each since 2017? And some Aussie on Fox has the cheek to say they care about international RL? They’re so hypocritical and ironic that they’re beyond a joke.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:38 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

They’re as likely come over in Summer as they are to sign that mate but joking aside I completely agree. RL’s decline has an awful lot to do with their (NRL) half heartedness towards the international game - I mean what is it 4/5 tests each since 2017? And some Aussie on Fox has the cheek to say they care about international RL? They’re so hypocritical and ironic that they’re beyond a joke.

The really sad part of it all is that after that World Cup here in 2013, I thought we were as close to cracking internationals as a sport as I can remember in my 30+ years watching the Sport. I’d come off back to back weeks of being at Wembley with 67,000 on to witness an incredible game between NZ and England, followed by being in a crowd of 74,000 at Old Trafford for Australia vs NZ and I thought ‘this is it’. It felt like the game had woken up to the fact that internationals must be the pinnacle to help your sport grow and since then it’s been absolutely pi*sed down the drain. The momentum of that tournament was killed because we didn’t have another home test for a couple of years.

The crowd for that semi at Wembley felt (and sounded) mainly Southern based and that felt pretty incredible. To grow a game new fans need to feel attached to a team to feel invested and 99% of the country couldn’t give a flying one about Wigan, Warrington, St Helens etc. They will watch an England team, they will feel invested in it and they will turn up when it’s marketed right.

It’s an incredible shame IMO what has gone on since 2013 and the NRL top brass take the vast majority of the blame.

Re: Official - Australia & NZ pull out of World Cup : Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:00 am  

Officially announced.

Furious about this, I really am. In their statement RLWC2021 have essentially confirmed the NRL were refusing point blank to release any players. Correct me if I’m wrong but that goes completely against international representation rules doesn’t it? So we’ve folded to the NRL who have no interest whatsoever in international RL and not even a sanction in sight? Utterly deplorable the whole way it’s been done.

And what guarantees are in place ensuring they don’t pull the same trick next year? The utter contempt of which they hold Intl RL is ridiculous. 4 tests in 5 years it’ll be by the time the RLWC comes around, including one year they refused to play GB as they wanted a “break”.

I genuinely cannot stand the NRL or what it stands for.