Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:35 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

You cannot just swap and change people around like that.

Played most of his youth career so far at second row, then move him to centre because of these attributes, then move him back in a few years to second row. It doesn't work like that for 99% of players.

There's loads of examples of it working. I'd certainly consider him as a centre option unless he shows us he can no longer player there (he did see some time at centre in academy, no idea about before that).

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:25 am  

Anyone seen anything on Ellis yet. I have heard he isn’t that good but NRL standard to SL he maybe able to prove himself

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:18 pm  

WWste wrote:

Anyone seen anything on Ellis yet. I have heard he isn’t that good but NRL standard to SL he maybe able to prove himself

I remember seeing him and was impressed with his ability to play the link man. Good passing game for a “middle”. He’s not a prop or a 13 but the modern type of middle forward.

He’s much more suited to that role than with Harvard or Partington. Harvard is a Prop and Partington for me is a Prop trying to be a “middle” forward.

Ellis is by no means a super star but he will add size and that bit of mongrel the team lacks up top. He gets in the opposition faces and likes to disrupt

He was most recently linked with a move to Cas so when we announced him I was a little surprised but pleased.

He will go well in SL in my opinion.

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:32 pm  

jonh wrote:

WWste wrote:

Anyone seen anything on Ellis yet. I have heard he isn’t that good but NRL standard to SL he maybe able to prove himself

I remember seeing him and was impressed with his ability to play the link man. Good passing game for a “middle”. He’s not a prop or a 13 but the modern type of middle forward.

He’s much more suited to that role than with Harvard or Partington. Harvard is a Prop and Partington for me is a Prop trying to be a “middle” forward.

Ellis is by no means a super star but he will add size and that bit of mongrel the team lacks up top. He gets in the opposition faces and likes to disrupt

He was most recently linked with a move to Cas so when we announced him I was a little surprised but pleased.

He will go well in SL in my opinion.

Kade Evans was reported as possible move to SL with Cas interested, im not sure if Ellis was on their radar

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:33 pm  

Both Ellis and Mago are in their respective squads for the weekend.

Looking at South Sydney's social media, a lot of thier fans would have liked to have kept Mago. I'm taking that as a positive.

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:13 pm  

Mago played for Souths at the weekend and had decent minutes, looked solid.

As for KPP at centre, he may be quick 'for a forward', but is quick for an outside back? And, as noted, the defensive aspect of the position in particular is not easy.

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:14 pm  

moto748 wrote:

Mago played for Souths at the weekend and had decent minutes, looked solid.

As for KPP at centre, he may be quick 'for a forward', but is quick for an outside back? And, as noted, the defensive aspect of the position in particular is not easy.

I was one who called for trying him at centre when we were struggling in the backs using Farrell and Isa, he was unfortunately injured, after seeing him play he has good hands but no sign of the pace needed for centre. We have had success over the years with Gilmour, Wild, Tompkins even Hughes covering centre but they all had pace. I would like to see KPP in open space to see if he has the acceleration needed to play in the backs.

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:24 pm  

I’d hope we’d have enough options in the backs next year to avoid needing to go down the route of second rowers covering centre. French is staying, so Hardaker and Bibby are already centre options and Thornley is likely to be added. They may even bring back Hankinson according to reports, so we could have good depth. I’d be looking to get KPP to put some size on in the off season and concentrate on playing in the back row. I’m not saying he should be bulking up too much but an extra stone on him and he’ll be an even bigger handful than he is proving already.

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:32 pm  

Very happy with these signings.

Re: Miski, Mago & Ellis Confirmed : Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:02 pm  

jonh wrote:

I remember seeing him and was impressed with his ability to play the link man. Good passing game for a “middle”. He’s not a prop or a 13 but the modern type of middle forward.

He’s much more suited to that role than with Harvard or Partington. Harvard is a Prop and Partington for me is a Prop trying to be a “middle” forward.

Ellis is by no means a super star but he will add size and that bit of mongrel the team lacks up top. He gets in the opposition faces and likes to disrupt

He was most recently linked with a move to Cas so when we announced him I was a little surprised but pleased.

He will go well in SL in my opinion.

Main concern from that summary is that we really needed two out and out front rowers. Sounds like he'll do well for us but I probably would have preferred for the 2nd signing to be of a similar ilk to Mago.