Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:45 am  

FIOS wrote:

The fact that we have had no goal kicker and a second row playing centre all season and a goal kicking centre sat out on loan at London is baffling.

Your 100% right

Bringing Hankinson back to kick goals will definitely solve all of our problems

[DaveO]

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:49 am  

Suzy Banyon wrote:

A lot of people are pointing the finger for the state we're in at Lam and I understand why. He's a clown that needs to pack his red nose and drive his clown car back to Aus. But, the people only blaming Lam are missing the bigger picture, our recruitment had been so poor for 8 years now, the blame lies with the ginger clown - Radlinski. He's brought Lam into his jobs for the boy's club along with lackluster backroom appointments like Paul Johnson.

Get rid of both of them and rebuild. Does Pollard have the stomach for that?

I’d be shocked if he got rid of Lam never mind Radlinski. Every now and again there comes a time when the owner of a pro sports club has just got to bite the bullet and recognise it’s time to sack the coach. I doubt IL will do it and if he doesn’t he’s harming the clubs prospects not only for this season but next and beyond as fans walk away, young players have their confidence shot and potential recruits won’t like what they see.

It’s hard to say what lies behind it. A misplaced sense of loyalty? Not willing to pay a severance package? No idea who to replace him with or inability to get a new coach interested? Combination of all three? Who knows but the longer he leaves it if things carry on like this the worse it will get and the harder it is to fix.

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:58 am  

Jukesays wrote:

Your 100% right

Bringing Hankinson back to kick goals will definitely solve all of our problems

I'm not sure if that's a sarcastic response or not?

Hankinson won't change the side on his own, but if bringing in a big solid lad, who's also a decent goal kicker and that in turn let's us move one of our defensive champions back into the pack - why wouldn't we do it?

By the sounds of previous posts of yours, I don't think we're a million miles away from eachother in regards to the style of rugby we both like. Isa (who I still think he has his limitations) plays a huge role in what we are good at - hard, spiteful, pack mentality defence.

That's what we need to get back too and the quickest way to do it, is to have the key players playing in their right positions.

Sort the defence and build from there imo.

[DaveO]

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 8:59 am  

Jukesays wrote:

Your 100% right

Bringing Hankinson back to kick goals will definitely solve all of our problems

No it wouldn’t but it would solve the goal kicking problem. Against HKR we’d have been level at one point with the kicks going over and that can change the momentum of a game. It would also allow 2nd row forwards who have been playing centre to go back into the pack which given Bateman is out injured might be a good idea.

I don’t get the opposition to Hankinson being recalled from loan. The club is struggling to find 17 fit players and while he’s not Gene Miles he’s a better centre option than second rowers in my view.

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:21 am  

Even minus the goal kicking Hankinson should be brought back and it’s baffling why he hasn’t been. No Smithies now I guess, No Bateman and No Hardaker or French, so we need as many backs as possible to allow Isa to move in to the pack.

Instead we’ll keep finding a few more 19 year olds we can grind in to the dirt.

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:36 am  

Are you all not overlooking the obvious here with regards to Hankinson; is there even a recall clause in the loan arrangement? It may be the case that Wigan simply can't bring him back.

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:47 am  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Are you all not overlooking the obvious here with regards to Hankinson; is there even a recall clause in the loan arrangement? It may be the case that Wigan simply can't bring him back.

Possibly, but if that's the case then it's a simple one to put to bed.

Both Lam and Hank haven't done that. Earlier on in the season, Lam said "we haven't had those discussions yet" and Hank just posted a shoulder shrug emoji when asked why he wasn't back.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:55 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Possibly, but if that's the case then it's a simple one to put to bed.

Both Lam and Hank haven't done that. Earlier on in the season, Lam said "we haven't had those discussions yet" and Hank just posted a shoulder shrug emoji when asked why he wasn't back.

maybe he doesn't want to come back, wigan haven't shown him much loyalty, sending him on a season loan, to a non SL club, at the other end of the country in favour of a FB taking your starting spot.

Would you want to come back?

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:59 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

maybe he doesn't want to come back, wigan haven't shown him much loyalty, sending him on a season loan, to a non SL club, at the other end of the country in favour of a FB taking your starting spot.

Would you want to come back?

Then not sure why he signed a new deal before he went.

Re: Wire at home : Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:02 am  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Are you all not overlooking the obvious here with regards to Hankinson; is there even a recall clause in the loan arrangement? It may be the case that Wigan simply can't bring him back.

Hankinson IS on a season long loan and can't be recalled.