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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 12:22 pm  
I've been pretty disappointed with Bateman's performances since he came back. Not a patch on when he left us.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 1:14 pm  
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I've been pretty disappointed with Bateman's performances since he came back. Not a patch on when he left us.


He doesn't look quite as invested to me - at times he looks to be going through the motions. If his decision last year was based purely on rugby he'd still be in Australia - just hope this doesn't mean he's demotivated now he's back at Wigan.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 1:35 pm  
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He doesn't look quite as invested to me - at times he looks to be going through the motions. If his decision last year was based purely on rugby he'd still be in Australia - just hope this doesn't mean he's demotivated now he's back at Wigan.


How many ex-Wigan players have come back to us from the NRL and performed to the level they played prior to leaving us. Not many at all, the only one I can think of is Tommy.

Funnily enough some of those players have then gone on to perform better once they've left Wigan the 2nd time.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 2:33 pm  
Strange isn't it.

If you look at the Superleague site stats Bateman is overall top player when they consider all facets of the game, tries, metres, carries, tackle busts, errors, penalties etc, etc etc

https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/playe ... al&dir=asc
Strange isn't it.

If you look at the Superleague site stats Bateman is overall top player when they consider all facets of the game, tries, metres, carries, tackle busts, errors, penalties etc, etc etc

https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/playe ... al&dir=asc
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 2:49 pm  
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Strange isn't it.

If you look at the Superleague site stats Bateman is overall top player when they consider all facets of the game, tries, metres, carries, tackle busts, errors, penalties etc, etc etc

https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/playe ... al&dir=asc

Those statistics don't take into consideration things like 2 terrible intercept passes, one leading directly to a try, and an horrendous non-attempt at a tackle that led to another in the last game for example. Some things don't quantify statistically very easily.
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Strange isn't it.

If you look at the Superleague site stats Bateman is overall top player when they consider all facets of the game, tries, metres, carries, tackle busts, errors, penalties etc, etc etc

https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/playe ... al&dir=asc

Those statistics don't take into consideration things like 2 terrible intercept passes, one leading directly to a try, and an horrendous non-attempt at a tackle that led to another in the last game for example. Some things don't quantify statistically very easily.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 2:50 pm  
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Strange isn't it.

If you look at the Superleague site stats Bateman is overall top player when they consider all facets of the game, tries, metres, carries, tackle busts, errors, penalties etc, etc etc

https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/playe ... al&dir=asc


I'm sure Bateman at 50% is better than the majority of his peers, though I think those are the points awarded for the fantasy game. I did it a couple of years ago - think I remember you get 4 or 5 points for an offload! 64 offloads across 8 games seems a bit dodgy to me as well...
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Strange isn't it.

If you look at the Superleague site stats Bateman is overall top player when they consider all facets of the game, tries, metres, carries, tackle busts, errors, penalties etc, etc etc

https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/playe ... al&dir=asc


I'm sure Bateman at 50% is better than the majority of his peers, though I think those are the points awarded for the fantasy game. I did it a couple of years ago - think I remember you get 4 or 5 points for an offload! 64 offloads across 8 games seems a bit dodgy to me as well...
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 3:25 pm  
The expectations being placed on Bateman are crazy. He’s not at his best but even then he’s knocking out fantastic numbers. He won’t walk through teams here now because he didn’t do that before, regardless of him having a good spell in the NRL. He needs to cut out the errors and stop moaning at the ref and once he does, he’s the least of our worries.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 4:00 pm  
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The expectations being placed on Bateman are crazy. He’s not at his best but even then he’s knocking out fantastic numbers. He won’t walk through teams here now because he didn’t do that before, regardless of him having a good spell in the NRL. He needs to cut out the errors and stop moaning at the ref and once he does, he’s the least of our worries.

I agree to a certain extent. He seems to thrive when he has something to prove and perhaps hasn't been able to find the same motivation now he's a big fish, so to speak. He seems more frustrated than anything else. After he didn't even make an attempt at the tackle for the last Salford try his body language wasn't good. He hung his head like he knew it was poor but didn't know what to do about it.

His game is all about every second of the match being the most important. Relentless will to win. He somehow needs to find a way to duplicate that attitude as a star player in the same way as he did as a plucky underdog or the Pom who's too small to succeed in the NRL.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 4:12 pm  
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I agree to a certain extent. He seems to thrive when he has something to prove and perhaps hasn't been able to find the same motivation now he's a big fish, so to speak. He seems more frustrated than anything else. After he didn't even make an attempt at the tackle for the last Salford try his body language wasn't good. He hung his head like he knew it was poor but didn't know what to do about it.

His game is all about every second of the match being the most important. Relentless will to win. He somehow needs to find a way to duplicate that attitude as a star player in the same way as he did as a plucky underdog or the Pom who's too small to succeed in the NRL.


I do think it’s a mental thing. If anything I think he might be trying too hard to show he’s an even better player than the one which left and it’s leading to silly errors like the offload for the Livett try. I think he thinks that to show he’s worth a marquee deal he needs to add more facets to his game than what he had before he left and absolutely dominate games but he was great before and he’ll settle down. If he wasn’t making masses of ground and 30-40 tackles a game I’d be worried but he is.

I think the personal side of his life will also have had an effect. I’m sure he’ll have prioritised putting a lot of energy in to his family, I believe he’s moved in to a new property and has had his partner come over from Oz and when you think that she won’t have met his family before, that must be a crazy mix, especially when you factor in all the covid restrictions. The lads head must be spinning but he’ll settle.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm  
MadDogg wrote:
I'm sure Bateman at 50% is better than the majority of his peers, though I think those are the points awarded for the fantasy game. I did it a couple of years ago - think I remember you get 4 or 5 points for an offload! 64 offloads across 8 games seems a bit dodgy to me as well...




https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/howtoplay

4 points for an offload so the 64 points is made up from 16 offloads over the games played.
MadDogg wrote:
I'm sure Bateman at 50% is better than the majority of his peers, though I think those are the points awarded for the fantasy game. I did it a couple of years ago - think I remember you get 4 or 5 points for an offload! 64 offloads across 8 games seems a bit dodgy to me as well...




https://fantasy.superleague.co.uk/howtoplay

4 points for an offload so the 64 points is made up from 16 offloads over the games played.
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