Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 1:57 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Should have been a comfortable win, we should have absolutely smashed a Salford side missing their best players and captain. But no, disgraceful once again. Lam says we were “courageous”, I don’t know what side he was watching but we were anything but.

That result shows how utterly inept Lam is, Shorrocks at centre? Zak on the wing? No structure in attack, defence all over the place. Honestly what has Lam brought to this club? Get rid.

I think we are courageous in how we defend our line and refuse to just fold but that isn’t enough for a club like Wigan. We look a rabble with the ball and devoid of ideas. I fear these bucketload of close wins in run of the mill league games will actually do is more harm than good longer term, as it may keep Lammy in a job and I see no signs that we have more in us to show in the big games at the end of the season.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 2:07 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I think we are courageous in how we defend our line and refuse to just fold but that isn’t enough for a club like Wigan. We look a rabble with the ball and devoid of ideas. I fear these bucketload of close wins in run of the mill league games will actually do is more harm than good longer term, as it may keep Lammy in a job and I see no signs that we have more in us to show in the big games at the end of the season.

I'd like to think management are already making plans to replace regardless of how we finish this season. The rugby on show is just not entertaining even when we face lesser opposition with injuries. I just don't see the supporters coming back in droves once restrictions are lifted, that has to be a big concern to IL and KR.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 2:21 pm  

MattyB wrote:

I'd like to think management are already making plans to replace regardless of how we finish this season. The rugby on show is just not entertaining even when we face lesser opposition with injuries. I just don't see the supporters coming back in droves once restrictions are lifted, that has to be a big concern to IL and KR.

I said on another forum that it’s criminal to think we’re so turgid to watch when our back line includes two man of steel winners from the last 5 years and a guy in French who should’ve got it last season IMO. We should be flying and an absolute nightmare to play against.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 3:48 pm  

Yesterday if you imagine Bibby as a first choice winger until Marshall is fully fit we had the chance to play four out of our first choice back five in their correct positions, Lam decided to play two of them (French and Manfredi) where they should be, he then put our right centre on the left wing our left wing to left centre and a back row forward to right centre who others have said has never played there before.
Can someone on here with coaching experience explain explain that to me because I can't get my head around it.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 4:28 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I think we are courageous in how we defend our line and refuse to just fold but that isn’t enough for a club like Wigan. We look a rabble with the ball and devoid of ideas. I fear these bucketload of close wins in run of the mill league games will actually do is more harm than good longer term, as it may keep Lammy in a job and I see no signs that we have more in us to show in the big games at the end of the season.

Might sound harsh but I think we’re just supremely fit and able to defend like that because we are so fit.

It’s such a paradox, we’re sat top of the table unbeaten 7 games in and yet we’re calling for Lam’s head. I’ve got mates who are, unbelievably, pro Lam who just laugh when I’m off on one about him. We keep saying “we’ll get mullered by a good side” but we won’t. We’ll not get splatted by Saints by 30odd l - our lads have too much pride in the bank for that. I just hope that despite what the league says, IL/KR have seen through the smokescreen that provides and realised just how crap we are. It’s a good job the rest of the league is so poor IMO other than 2/3 other clubs.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 4:29 pm  

I don't get why Lam is so desperate for Joe Shorrocks to play every game? One of the most average players we've brought through in recent times. Defending in the centre position he was out of place a few times as well and thankfully covered by Smith and Manfredi on a couple of occasions.

Said this the other day but against Leigh he made ONE carry in his 30+ minutes. Lam's reaction? Play him at centre... unbelievable!

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 4:51 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I think we are courageous in how we defend our line and refuse to just fold but that isn’t enough for a club like Wigan. We look a rabble with the ball and devoid of ideas. I fear these bucketload of close wins in run of the mill league games will actually do is more harm than good longer term, as it may keep Lammy in a job and I see no signs that we have more in us to show in the big games at the end of the season.

Couldn’t have put it better myself.
I pray the powers that be can see through 7/7. We are treading a tightrope.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 5:31 pm  

Smalls wrote:

Couldn’t have put it better myself.
I pray the powers that be can see through 7/7. We are treading a tightrope.

Either that or he saves us the trouble/disappointment and goes back himself

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 5:35 pm  

IL supposedly operates on trophies won.

He has 1 chance left to make it 1/6. That isn't good enough IMO.

Re: 21 man squad to face Salford Saturday. : Sun May 23, 2021 5:42 pm  

Last year I was very much of the opinion that if we won the Grand Final he should stay on and I agreed with him staying on even losing it because of the manner of it and how we lifted at the back end of the season. This season is different for me. I’d replace him even if we did win it (which we won’t) unless we win it and in the process between now and then we actually start to look like a team that trains together in the week and plays this sparkling, attacking rugby he speaks of on a consistent basis.

The point people make about the crowds is a good one. Nobody other than diehards will be rushing out buy a ticket to watch what is on offer.