Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:38 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I would suggest that the biggest thing tickling our fancies and I admit that I can't speak for everyone is not because the lad's from Wigan like one or two others and not that he's chosen us over you for whatever reason but that we are a club that is showing ambition.

Sure we may fall short and how plenty would laugh I get that and IF that happens the wait continues BUT we are trying and if only that was spread throughout the league and I accept there are limiting factors but that would really float my boat a SPORT on the up

Nailed it right there…

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:11 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I would suggest that the biggest thing tickling our fancies and I admit that I can't speak for everyone is not because the lad's from Wigan like one or two others and not that he's chosen us over you for whatever reason but that we are a club that is showing ambition.

Sure we may fall short and how plenty would laugh I get that and IF that happens the wait continues BUT we are trying and if only that was spread throughout the league and I accept there are limiting factors but that would really float my boat a SPORT on the up

We’ve shown plenty of ambition the past few years with signings like Bateman, burgess, french and Hastings. It’s gotten us nowhere though tbh.

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:44 pm  

It did us ok until 2018 when Waney left.
Since then we've done nowt apart from lose every big match we've played.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:56 pm  

FIOS wrote:

We’ve shown plenty of ambition the past few years with signings like Bateman, burgess, french and Hastings. It’s gotten us nowhere though tbh.

Hey it wasn't an accusation or anti Wigan post and looking back to when every top name ended up at Central Park my view was always a hope that one day we would be able to attract or even retain top talent.

A strong even (ish) competition levelled up not down filled with decent academy products and a sprinkling of overseas stars would be great to watch.

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:02 pm  

End of the day, he’s only gone to the wolfs for money. He’s got as much chance of winning SL as Liam Kay has

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:15 pm  

I'm going to say this now. I think Williams will win a grand final with Wire during his time with them.

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:26 pm  

Hes no Andy Greg but to be fair who is?

Re: George Williams : Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:31 pm  

MattyB wrote:

I'm going to say this now. I think Williams will win a grand final with Wire during his time with them.

100% for me as well. The pandemic will have left many clubs in a very precarious position and there is no better place to be than in the one Wire find themselves in. They have a mega rich owner, desperate for success and who will be able to keep throwing money around at a time when many clubs will be tightening their belts. The Wire academy seems to be throwing a few good juniors out at the minute as well. Let’s put it this way, if they can’t win a Grand Final in the next few seasons with the advantages they have, then you have to wonder how they ever will.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:14 am  

This “thing” about having a rich owner meaning you can throw money about for success isn’t all that for me. They’ll have two marquees & spend up to the cap. Wire have tried the whole money throwing excercise for a while apparently with some success (CC wise). Thing is now is that it appears to be coming together really well as they’re finding a decent balance. How Powell does as coach remains to be seen. If they win SL, which I think they will within the next 3 seasons, it won’t be solely down to their financial position IMO.

Personally, my thoughts are generally that whoever out of the top 5/6 has the best coach wins the league. One of SL’s biggest issues for me is that there is a distinct lack of top drawer head coaches, with guys like Sean Long missing out on working under them (AKA Wane under Maguire). There really are no stand-out head coaches across the league (possibly McNamara, only on form though). Massively missing 3 or 4 Maguire’s/Holbrook’s/Robinsons’s/Monie’s. The draw from SL seems to be dropping for these type of guys, but you get a few teams with that level of coach at the same time, and the whole league improves as it drags the rest up (monkey see, monkey do). Thing is, it would take a minor miracle to make it happen given the decline of the sport generally over here.

Re: George Williams : Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:31 am  

Father Ted wrote:

It did us ok until 2018 when Waney left.
Since then we've done nowt apart from lose every big match we've played.

Wane did not have a pandemic and today's poor financial situation at the club to deal with like the present coaching staff.

Time that some supporters faced up to the fact that like in everyday business life, Wigan is getting left behind Warrington and St Helens where investment and finance is concerned.

Now, it is not a case of Warrington spending more than what is allowed on the salary cap, but more a case of Wigan not in the same position to spend the amount allowed like they did in the past.

Hence, Warrington offering more money for Williams!