Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:41 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Went for the beer then.

Much better

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:45 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

If your looking on here (or facebook/twitter) and basing your opinions of wigan as a club/team on them then I reckon you need to have a long hard look at yourself.

He makes a valid point though. Been complaint after complaint on here lately, although the ones about our performances and pack are valid.

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:48 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

We're just as bad as ever, which is down to having a crap coach who should have been sacked in 2019.

However on here we've got constant complaints re the following

Poor coaching from lam, and performances getting worse (despite getting to a gd and being unbeaten for most of this year)
Poor recruitment, running with a bunch of academy props and other forwards
Poor recruitment in the backs, having to play backrowers at centre, centres at wing (a centre that ppl didn't want recruiting) and then the talk of bringing back players.youve let go deemed to not being good enough.
Not being able to fit both hardaker and French in the side and hampering both (pre injury)
Complaints about key players not making it back from Australia till a couple of weeks before the season starting.
Complaints about retention of constantly injured players
Complaints about lenaghan not spending any money and radlinski's ability yo run a club.

These aren't my opinions, just what I've seen discussed on here. There's zero point being defensive to me, I'm not having a pop.

I'm not being defensive, I'm calling you out on your BS statement;

In this instance, the company you've left is arguably not as well run as it was when you were there previously, after having been industry leaders shortly before you left

I'm in no way saying that things are all sunshine lollypops at the club, but to suggest GW is going to Wire because we've regressed so much in 18 months is laughable - especially when you factor in that you guys have been equally bad.

He's gone for the cash and that's it.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:53 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

I'm not being defensive, I'm calling you out on your BS statement;

I'm in no way saying that things are all sunshine lollypops at the club, but to suggest GW is going to Wire because we've regressed so much in 18 months is laughable - especially when you factor in that you guys have been equally bad.

He's gone for the cash and that's it.

he probably has gone for the cash.

but i'll ask you a straight forward question, Do you feel the team is in a better place now than it was when he left in 2019

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:56 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

He makes a valid point though. Been complaint after complaint on here lately, although the ones about our performances and pack are valid.

Not even my opinions Guy, personally i think some of the complaints are a bit harsh, but i get it, you've got high standards so it's understandable.

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:02 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

he probably has gone for the cash.

but i'll ask you a straight forward question, Do you feel the team is in a better place now than it was when he left in 2019

Yes I do actually, that doesn't mean I'm happy with where we are at tho. I'd take this side all day over the one in 2019. Same pack + Bateman and the props are 18 months better (but still aren't good enough mind). 19 went out with a whimper to Salford and this one got to the GF.

I don't think you are getting the point I'm trying to make though, or you're just being a troll.

Like I said, there's issues at the club but there's only one side in the league I'd say have their $h!t together more than we do and it isn't Wire. To suggest it's a reason why GW went to you is laughable.

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:15 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

I'm not being defensive, I'm calling you out on your BS statement;

I'm in no way saying that things are all sunshine lollypops at the club, but to suggest GW is going to Wire because we've regressed so much in 18 months is laughable - especially when you factor in that you guys have been equally bad.

He's gone for the cash and that's it.

So?

Good luck to the lad. He isn't obliged to sign for us. If i was in his shoes i would do exactly the same. I am a Wigan fan through and through but i wouldn't think twice about having the opportunity to give my family a better life. It's only a game when all is said and done that we can all bicker about.

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:19 pm  

Pie_Eyter wrote:

So?

Good luck to the lad. He isn't obliged to sign for us. If i was in his shoes i would do exactly the same. I am a Wigan fan through and through but i wouldn't think twice about having the opportunity to give my family a better life. It's only a game when all is said and done that we can all bicker about.

Correct, and at least he has gone to a club that is challenging for honours also. Had he signed for a mid-table club on the same money (or as you see in football when someone moves to a City or a Chelsea where they will never get a game) then you could question his motives, but he has signed for a good club on a good deal.

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:21 pm  

Pie_Eyter wrote:

So?

Good luck to the lad. He isn't obliged to sign for us. If i was in his shoes i would do exactly the same. I am a Wigan fan through and through but i wouldn't think twice about having the opportunity to give my family a better life. It's only a game when all is said and done that we can all bicker about.

Fair enough & that's your choice (& GW's).

I wouldn't and plenty of others wouldn't too. For every mercenary, there's people who've stayed at a single club and turned down big money moves.

Re: George Williams : Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:27 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Correct, and at least he has gone to a club that is challenging for honours also. Had he signed for a mid-table club on the same money (or as you see in football when someone moves to a City or a Chelsea where they will never get a game) then you could question his motives, but he has signed for a good club on a good deal.

It's up to the individual I guess. I'm just bored of the blanket/black and white approach of "it's more money so I'll go there" attitude and inability to see past it.

There's loads of examples of people sticking with the one club, due to loyalty etc. I'm just not sure why people seem to forget about them, or pretend like it doesn't happen?