FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  
 Current LIVE TV Match : Hull Kingston Rovers 12 - 0 Hull FC LIVE ON SKY SPORTS Lewis Try, Not Converted
WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Former coach Michael Maguire
RankPostsTeam
International Star1785No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 18 201113 years274th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
4th Nov 23 12:214th Nov 23 11:00LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Former coach Michael Maguire : Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:41 pm  
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29166
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 08 200419 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 07:2227th Mar 24 12:49LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WIGAN

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:20 pm  
I remember when Maguire left feeling gutted and thinking how great it would be if we ever got chance to get him back but he looks to be burnt out to me. I’ve never seen a coach who looks as desperate to win games but he drives everyone so hard that it must be a brutal environment to be in. He looks ready for a break from the game when I see him recently.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1227
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 12 20158 years283rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jan 24 07:1622nd Jan 24 19:06LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:38 pm  
He does seem to have the “burnt out” look about him,to me he was always was in thin ice at west’s given their poor form and for Hastings to go there (off topic I know)seems a big risk as like not there will be as new coach installed by the time he gets there.

For me Maguires time has been and gone in the NRL but hey I’m wrong all the time
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9220
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 200519 years101st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 08:4329th Mar 24 12:48LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:52 pm  
Looks like he'll soon have an enforced break from coaching - never really got going for him at Wests. Their defence was dreadful at the weekend - as it is across the bottom half of the NRL. Some wonderful games and some great tries being scored but a handful of clubs are letting in tries we'd be slating SL clubs for.

Id still like Maguire back at Wigan but doubt he'd consider it. SL was a stepping stone for him like it is for many Australians - I think he left 2 years into a 3 year deal at Wigan when a job came up. No criticism of that - just the way it is. I wonder whether there is something in NK"s theory that the team is fatigued due to Maguire demanding too much of them - maybe a bit similar to Jurgen Klopp and Liverpool atm.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1356
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 13 200321 years275th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 13:2618th Mar 24 08:02LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Category 3

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:29 am  
A bit of a feeling that he will get you 2/3 good seasons and will spark an underperforming team. Obviously not working at Wests however.

He does look to be stressed every time you see him.
Grimmy 
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach15436
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 16 200519 years192nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 11:3014th Dec 23 10:22LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Frank Zappa wrote:
Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

The_Enforcer wrote:
Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:35 am  
Best Wigan coach of the last couple of decades at least IMO. I think a lot of that came from improvements in fitness and wrestling to (legally) slow the tackle. We have those things in place though now, I'm not sure he would be able to come back over and revolutionise us again in the same way.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star3834
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 25 201212 years107th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 08:3026th Mar 24 19:12LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
In the sky with diamonds
Signature
23 LEAGUE TITLES
20 CHALLENGE CUPS
5 WORLD TITLES
SAYS IT ALL REALLY

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 am  
Grimmy wrote:
Best Wigan coach of the last couple of decades at least IMO. I think a lot of that came from improvements in fitness and wrestling to (legally) slow the tackle. We have those things in place though now, I'm not sure he would be able to come back over and revolutionise us again in the same way.


I still think the defensive intensity that he instilled in us, is still with there. There's only one player (Tommy) who played under Madge, but that approach to the defensive side of the game was carried through a number of iterations of the side imo.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member29166
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 08 200419 years16th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
29th Mar 24 07:2227th Mar 24 12:49LINK
Milestone Posts
25000
30000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WIGAN

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:41 am  
Grimmy wrote:
Best Wigan coach of the last couple of decades at least IMO. I think a lot of that came from improvements in fitness and wrestling to (legally) slow the tackle. We have those things in place though now, I'm not sure he would be able to come back over and revolutionise us again in the same way.


Agree with that. There probably would be a club here where he could come in and change the whole place in the way he did with us but I’m not sure it’d work at Wigan again. I wouldn’t mind seeing what he could do at a club like Catalans. He’d rock that whole place and put foundations in place for years to come ‘if’ he got enough buy in from the players. He’d be a nightmare for a guy like Kasiano.

Fingers crossed he comes through the other side at West’s. He did so much for us and left one hell of a legacy, so to see him fail isn’t nice.
Wigg'n 
RankPostsTeam
International Star7524
JoinedServiceReputation
May 11 201113 years186th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
24th Mar 24 17:5018th Feb 24 17:20LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:52 am  
It really does seem like his time has come and gone. He's massively underperformed since 2015 so I'm amazed he's even still getting head coaching roles.

He took Souths from World Champions to below mid-table fodder in the space of a couple of years. I've always wondered if he would've done the same with us.

The difference between successful teams and one-hit wonders always seems to be how they cope with losing big players which naturally happens when you become successful (the best players want more money but in a salary capped sport).

When Souths lost Burgess to RU they seemed to lose a part of their identity. When we lost Sam Tomkins to the NRL, Wane was smart enough to change the way we played and we still made the GF for the next 3 years. Similarly when McIlorum left - a huge hole left around the ruck in defensive intensity and aggression that we had to fill.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain896No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 01 20195 years138th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
9th Sep 23 23:299th Sep 23 23:15LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Former coach Michael Maguire : Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:03 am  
I think Sam Powell right now is better than any version of what we got from Mcillorum. I don't think Maguire would work again. He did brilliantly for us but got a massive helping hand from being able to bring Finch, Hoffman and Lima over. Our fitness levels now are better than they were under madge imo, we just need to be more destructive in attack. I'm very happy with the direction we are headed in though providing we can replace hastings and French. Silverware required this season though. Want to see us back in the CC Final.
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: bazdev, MOPSEY LIVES ON, verbatim, WWste and 352 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
UllFC
179
1m
Game - Song Titles
Shinedown
34333
1m
Wigan/Saints
Douglas Blac
3
3m
TV games not Wire
matt_wire
2872
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Shinedown
56058
6m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
financialtim
34
8m
Hull FC
djcool
34
29m
Rd 6 I Cas A
KaeruJim
135
47m
Investment
Bully_Boxer
32
50m
Squad for Cup Game
CW8
17
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
Wigan/Saints
Douglas Blac
3
1m
Hull FC
djcool
34
1m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Jason65
1935
1m
Fevround 2
The Phantom
92
1m
Saints a
apollosghost
26
2m
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
2m
Ky Rodwell
FIL
112
3m
Smith out ASAP
Backwoodsman
138
3m
State of the Nation
UllFC
232
3m
New Investors
BullRaider
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wigan/Saints
Douglas Blac
3
TODAY
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhinos Go Level Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
York - 14th April
PopTart
23
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
WYSIWYG2
5
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
CW8
19
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Smiffy27
18
TODAY
Saints a
apollosghost
26
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
Deadcowboys1
9
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
financialtim
34
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Another Tigers Defeat As Rhino..
180
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
600
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
721
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
601
Warrington Demolish London For..
705
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
761
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
737
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
977
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
942
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1091
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1058
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1128
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1101
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3887
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1218
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist