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Re: Wakefield Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:24 pm  

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jonh wrote:
Why should he go to Australia to cut his teeth?

I don’t understand.


Because hardly any British coaches actually make the promotion to head coach and look competent these days?

It's no secret that the best coaches in our game are Australian, and most 'new' ideas flow from the game over there so why not go and learn off a current NRL head coach?
Re: Wakefield Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:39 pm  

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Wigg'n wrote:
Because hardly any British coaches actually make the promotion to head coach and look competent these days?

It's no secret that the best coaches in our game are Australian, and most 'new' ideas flow from the game over there so why not go and learn off a current NRL head coach?

Not sure about that. It's about 50/50 between British and non-British coaches in terms of SL trophies won. Wane, McDermott, Radford, Watson and Powell are all fairly successful recent British coaches, then to a lesser extent Ward and Ford have done well with limited resources too. Tony Smith is Australian but all his coaching experience has been over here and he has continued to be successful for 20 years.
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Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

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Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.
Re: Wakefield Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:58 pm  

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Grimmy wrote:
Not sure about that. It's about 50/50 between British and non-British coaches in terms of SL trophies won. Wane, McDermott, Radford, Watson and Powell are all fairly successful recent British coaches, then to a lesser extent Ward and Ford have done well with limited resources too. Tony Smith is Australian but all his coaching experience has been over here and he has continued to be successful for 20 years.



Noble also.
Re: Wakefield Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:01 pm  

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JonnyBroad wrote:
Noble also.


was Noble not assistant to Elliott though so maybe helped him
Re: Wakefield Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:22 pm  

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JonnyBroad wrote:
Noble also.

I was talking about recent coaches but yes he was another successful British coach
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Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

The_Enforcer wrote:
Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.
Re: Wakefield Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:20 pm  

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Pieman wrote:
was Noble not assistant to Elliott though so maybe helped him


Using that theory Wane assisted McGuire?
Re: Wakefield Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:23 am  

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Using that theory Wane assisted McGuire?


yes and your exactly right
Re: Wakefield Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:59 am  

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Grimmy wrote:
Not sure about that. It's about 50/50 between British and non-British coaches in terms of SL trophies won. Wane, McDermott, Radford, Watson and Powell are all fairly successful recent British coaches, then to a lesser extent Ward and Ford have done well with limited resources too. Tony Smith is Australian but all his coaching experience has been over here and he has continued to be successful for 20 years.


Shaun Wane took a while to get to head coach though. Probably not far off 50 before his first season?

McDermott is definitely the anomaly as he was a very young coach and quickly successful. Although he does credit a lot of his learning to Tony Smith when they were at Huddersfield together.

The other ones I wouldn't want at Wigan.

Do you think Lockers will be ready for the top job after a few years being an assistant with us? He's known nothing but Wigan RL since a teenager. I'd much rather he go and explore other club's setups, styles, and bring those learnings back to us in a few years than live the "legend becomes coach" dream.

Maybe he doesn't even want to be a head coach anyway and all this is redundant :D
Re: Wakefield Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:43 am  

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Wigg'n wrote:
Shaun Wane took a while to get to head coach though. Probably not far off 50 before his first season?

McDermott is definitely the anomaly as he was a very young coach and quickly successful. Although he does credit a lot of his learning to Tony Smith when they were at Huddersfield together.

The other ones I wouldn't want at Wigan.

Do you think Lockers will be ready for the top job after a few years being an assistant with us? He's known nothing but Wigan RL since a teenager. I'd much rather he go and explore other club's setups, styles, and bring those learnings back to us in a few years than live the "legend becomes coach" dream.

Maybe he doesn't even want to be a head coach anyway and all this is redundant :D

No, I don't think it ever goes well having someone coaching people he played alongside. I was just pointing out that we have plenty recent good British coaches.
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Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.

The_Enforcer wrote:
Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.
Re: Wakefield Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:32 am  

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NickyKiss wrote:
It may be the case that Lam himself doesn’t want to commit to more than a year at a time due to family commitments but unfortunately for me that isn’t good enough. He’s far from being a proven first team coach and there are plenty of guys with good records who would love the job.

Lam's kids are all grown up back in Australia and he's in a relationship with a Wigan girl and has been for some time.
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