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Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 8:43 am  

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And yet despite all this we're a dropped catch away from golden point.
Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 8:44 am  

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Egg Chasing wrote:
And yet despite all this we're a dropped catch away from golden point.


That makes it ok then we have lost yet another big game!
Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 8:54 am  

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Egg Chasing wrote:
And yet despite all this we're a dropped catch away from golden point.


That’s the frustration.

We are still a top competitive side despite our lack of quality props.

As I said earlier replace our props with nearly every other SL teams and we do the double.
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Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 9:08 am  

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jonh wrote:
That’s the frustration.

We are still a top competitive side despite our lack of quality props.

As I said earlier replace our props with nearly every other SL teams and we do the double.


How many of our props are off contract in 2022?
I genuinely don’t know but I don’t think that any are so not sure how resolve the issue without deteriorating the quality of the squad in other positions
Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 9:29 am  

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How many of our props are off contract in 2022?
I genuinely don’t know but I don’t think that any are so not sure how resolve the issue without deteriorating the quality of the squad in other positions


Clubb is. Clark will leave without game time - his agent has already said he's frustrated about it.
Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 9:30 am  
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Our prop problem is started by the fact we've no big meter makers in the backs who can bring it out of our 10-20-30 areas. Hull's props and forwards in general were going forward off quick ptb from their backs. We haven't had that all season. We've been missing Manfredi, Gildart and Marshall who make big meters and quick ptb. That's where our problems start and we need good tactics to overcome that and Lam can't provide them. When Hodgson saw the team sheet an hour before ko he must have had a smile from ear to ear.

Once again in a big game team selection was more than questionable. We knew Hull's props would come after us big time so we needed Bullock and Singleton to start. Again in a big game Zac's kicking had to be watched. It was poor from minute one. Lam should have changed kicker 5 mins before half time not 5 mins before the end.

Poor team selection, poor tactics and poor game management led to that defeat and that's down to Lam IMO.

If we want to win trophies then IL/Rads have to start looking for Lam's replacement now, if they've not already.


We have the top metre maker in Superleague and four in the top twenty.
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Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 9:44 am  

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Clubb is. Clark will leave without game time - his agent has already said he's frustrated about it.


I’m quite confident that Clubb has signed an extension and we can’t make Clark move without I suspect using some of the cap.
I think we’re stuck with what we have unless we sign a marquee prop

We are short of 2 or 3 decent props

Anyway Lam says Smithies goes back into the middles so we’re sorted
Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 9:45 am  

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We have the top metre maker in Superleague and four in the top twenty.
https://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player-stats

https://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club-stats


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Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 10:27 am  

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Egg Chasing wrote:
And yet despite all this we're a dropped catch away from golden point.



Yet again, typical Wigan start to turn it on with five minutes to go and a mountain to climb.
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Re: The Prop Problem Sun May 09, 2021 10:36 am  

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That makes it ok then we have lost yet another big game!


No it doesn't, but some people are going on like we lost to the 86 Kangaroos.
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