Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:06 am  

maybe they will

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:27 am  

Sutton doesn’t even look like the same bloke anymore. He is a prime athlete now, who looks to have decided to commit and push himself. In his time here he was carrying a spare tyre round and played within himself. He was still a good player but a move to the NRL always seemed to be the plan and now he’s got it, he’s giving it everything he has. Fair play to him, he’s a cracking prop now and will make the England squad for the World Cup IMO.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:38 am  

You are right. Only 66 post contact meters.so he must be running from a long way back. Assuming contact is in front of the gain line he must still be up around the 100 meter mark. as well as getting 3 tackle busts.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:01 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Sutton doesn’t even look like the same bloke anymore. He is a prime athlete now, who looks to have decided to commit and push himself. In his time here he was carrying a spare tyre round and played within himself. He was still a good player but a move to the NRL always seemed to be the plan and now he’s got it, he’s giving it everything he has. Fair play to him, he’s a cracking prop now and will make the England squad for the World Cup IMO.

To be fair regarding his weight/fat it’s easy to forget he was only 22 when he left us, still very much a baby in real terms and some of that weight he would have been carrying would have been both puppy fat and also probably required to help him cope with the physicality at such a young age in his position. Remember Andy Faz when he came though being a totally different shape to the Faz we saw in his peak playing years.

At 25 now he has grown into himself and entered that period where he is able to lose that and reveal his natural playing weight condition.

I wouldn’t expect it will be an indication on him working any harder, just conditioning his body to the stage of his development.

He does look in fantastic condition now.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:09 am  

jonh wrote:

To be fair regarding his weight/fat it’s easy to forget he was only 22 when he left us, still very much a baby in real terms and some of that weight he would have been carrying would have been both puppy fat and also probably required to help him cope with the physicality at such a young age in his position. Remember Andy Faz when he came though being a totally different shape to the Faz we saw in his peak playing years.

At 25 now he has grown into himself and entered that period where he is able to lose that and reveal his natural playing weight condition.

I wouldn’t expect it will be an indication on him working any harder, just conditioning his body to the stage of his development.

He does look in fantastic condition now.

There’s definitely an element of that I’m sure. I’m probably too hard on him but I always sensed we had a lad who just coasted a little bit but even doing that, he was a good player for us and did a great job at such a young age. I can’t say I’m convinced he’d be in the condition he is now had he stayed here just through naturally shedding puppy fat but maybe I’m cynical. He knew he’d be moving to the NRL for that 2019 season prior to us starting our season in 2018 and it was no coincidence he got himself in much better shape for that last season with us.

That ship has sailed with Sutton anyway. He did a good job for us so fair play and he’s turning in to a top player now and I’m happy to see it. I don’t think we’ll ever see him back in superleague from the noises he makes but I look forward to seeing how he gets on for England.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:58 am  

Agreed. He has improved every aspect of his game, and looks a top forward these days.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:12 pm  

Levrier wrote:

Sutton for Canberra ran for 177 meters and made 47 tackles. When can we expect something similar from our props?

Are you joking?

Don't you know that props can only do one of either tackle or make meters? It's IMPOSSIBLE to do both.

Kind regards,
Adrian Lam and Shaun Wane

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:29 pm  

In fairness when you take in to consideration the way they’re counting them metres, Ethan Havard has been doing that most weeks since he came in to the first team.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:17 pm  

And Canberra were down to one bench player after about 20mins. Great by Sutton but due to circumstances he had to do a lot more than usual.

Re: The Prop Problem : Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:20 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Are you joking?

Don't you know that props can only do one of either tackle or make meters? It's IMPOSSIBLE to do both.

Kind regards,
Adrian Lam and Shaun Wane

Wane: 'I like props who find the floor quickly'.