Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:30 am  

Leading on from my other query about Tomkins.
Can someone tell me what went wrong for Joe at Wigan?
Saw him few years back at Headingley (pre- Australia) . Was best player on pitch by a mile..... Looked to have it all....

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:32 am  

nothing

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:33 am  

He is a player that relies on confidence and simply hasn’t had much of it the past few years

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:56 am  

Find this hard to beleive. With Marshall on comeback, as is poor Manfredi, why sell your best winger? Well even before injuries if the deal was done then.....

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:22 am  

Shabino wrote:

Find this hard to beleive. With Marshall on comeback, as is poor Manfredi, why sell your best winger? Well even before injuries if the deal was done then.....

He wasn't our best winger at the time the deal was likely made, or even first choice. His form improved later in the season.

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:23 am  

Grimmy wrote:

He wasn't our best winger at the time the deal was likely made, or even first choice. His form improved later in the season.

We didn't sell him either

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:29 am  

Jukesays wrote:

We didn't sell him either

Yeah fair point, likely his choice to ensure he was playing every week.

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:45 am  

On a side note with him, it was a shame to see he’s picked up a bad ankle injury and will miss a few months of the season. I don’t think injuries helped his second spell here and it’s not a good start at Salford sadly.

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:00 am  

Had the potential to be one of the countries best wingers but his form drastically dropped as soon as he signed for the NRL.
He didn't really get a chance at the Roosters, decided to come back to Wigan but then get the opportunity for the loan move to the Rabbitos and admitted he would have preferred to stay there. So he never actually wanted to come back to Wigan.

When he returned he had lost a lot of speed (Injuries? And bulked up?)
Was making lots of basic errors
Maybe impacted by constant changing Centres who lacked quality?
Possibly reacted negatively / de-motivated to players such as Marshall, Manfredi, Davies getting picked ahead of him?
Looked uninterested at times

I think its just an accumulation of the above.

Re: Joe Burgess : Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:50 am  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Had the potential to be one of the countries best wingers but his form drastically dropped as soon as he signed for the NRL.
He didn't really get a chance at the Roosters, decided to come back to Wigan but then get the opportunity for the loan move to the Rabbitos and admitted he would have preferred to stay there. So he never actually wanted to come back to Wigan.

When he returned he had lost a lot of speed (Injuries? And bulked up?)
Was making lots of basic errors
Maybe impacted by constant changing Centres who lacked quality?
Possibly reacted negatively / de-motivated to players such as Marshall, Manfredi, Davies getting picked ahead of him?
Looked uninterested at times

I think its just an accumulation of the above.

That's not true, he was in great form when he came back in 2017 and was our top try scorer including a hattrick v Cronulla. Then in 2018 he scored eight tries in eight games before he suffered that horrific injury at Widnes. He never really regained his confidence from that injury.
Even in 2019 he finished up ,as third top try scorer, averaging a try a game. I always thought that needed to run in a few long range tries to get that confidence back