Gells : Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:42 pm  

I know it’s not a Wigan topic however I thought I would post it as gells is ex Wigan
According to league express gells has left Warrington by mutual consent
Probably due to inglis’s arrival next season
I have also posted this on virtual terrace in case it gets locked on here

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:44 am  

Apparently he’s off to Hull

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:02 am  

Is this the same Tony Gelling who was desperate for a return to NZ, then pops up at just about every club going in England?

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:46 am  

Another conundrum, Gelling.

Capable of amazing plays and equally amazing buffonery.

One minute he's Wigan through and through, the next he's desperate to get back to NZ, the next he wants to come to Blighty again.

I liked him, but overall we're probably well rid.

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:50 am  

Isn't he also due in court next year?

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:57 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Isn't he also due in court next year?

February in Liverpool I think.

As a player, not a fan. Too unreliable.

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:26 am  

Cruncher wrote:

Another conundrum, Gelling.

Capable of amazing plays and equally amazing buffonery.

One minute he's Wigan through and through, the next he's desperate to get back to NZ, the next he wants to come to Blighty again.

I liked him, but overall we're probably well rid.

Agree. Lots going on off the field for him and unless Gildart is away I don’t think we need a centre.

On the field I think he is a very good player capable of adding a bit of the X factor but also contributing big meters. I am sure whoever picks him up will have an asset on their hands but his time has come and gone in a Wigan shirt for me.

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:50 am  

jonh wrote:

Agree. Lots going on off the field for him and unless Gildart is away I don’t think we need a centre.

On the field I think he is a very good player capable of adding a bit of the X factor but also contributing big meters. I am sure whoever picks him up will have an asset on their hands but his time has come and gone in a Wigan shirt for me.

Off topic, but...

What's your opinion on our depth situation across centre and wing for nest season? I know we don't always agree, but good to hear what others think.

I think Bibby has showed his worth since the league restarted. He deputised for Gildart quite well and then he's made the wing spot his own too.

If we could sign another player would it be an out and out winger or another Bibby i.e cover for both? Also could Manfredi move infield one? He seems to have lost a bit of pace, but he could probably do what Gelling does.

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:15 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Off topic, but...

What's your opinion on our depth situation across centre and wing for nest season? I know we don't always agree, but good to hear what others think.

I think Bibby has showed his worth since the league restarted. He deputised for Gildart quite well and then he's made the wing spot his own too.

If we could sign another player would it be an out and out winger or another Bibby i.e cover for both? Also could Manfredi move infield one? He seems to have lost a bit of pace, but he could probably do what Gelling does.

At the moment with all the movements we know about for me an outside back isn’t a priority.

It is a meter eating prop who can put us on the front foot. If we could get Burgess in any kind of condition then we wouldn’t need to but that seems highly unlikely.

Strong talk of Hank going so I’m also removing him from the equation for next year.

The way I see it we probably start 2021 with the following centres/wing/fullback combination.

1. French
2. Manfredi
3. Gildart
4. Hardaker
5. Bibby

With Marshall still on the sidelines and Hanley and Halsall in the squad.

If we pick up an injury on the wing prior to Marshall returning then options for me are French to the wing Hardaker to 1 and Bateman into the centre.

We could also move French to the wing move Field to 1 (assuming he is a starting half) and then give Tommy/Smith a start in the halves.

We could also go with Hanley or Halsall on the wing.

When Marshall is back that frees Bibby up to play wing or centre and that gives us a lot more options.

If we are to develop Hanley and Halsall they need some opportunities next year or we may as well get let them go and move on.

I assuming the above given we must be close to the cap.

If it were an option to bring in 2 more players then yes an outside back would be the next priority after a Prop and for me it would be a specialist winger if we could.

We have as fullback options- French Hardaker Field Hanley
We have as wing options - Bibby, Marshall, Manfredi, French, Hanley, Halsall
We have as centre options - Hardaker, Gildart, Bateman, Bibby, Halsall

Looking at that from a quality and injury history point of view if we could bring in another specialist winger that would be the best option in my opinion.

I think we will run with a smaller squad due to quality of recruitment and cap pressure and at times have to rely on player versatility.

I don’t see Manfredi as a centre option. Lacks the skill set in a key position so far as I can see.

Ultimately obviously it all comes down to cap space and who is available.

Prop for me absolute priority given Burgess looks unlikely to ever be capable of a full recovery. In relation to wingmen I could see us fishing away from traditional waters for a project signing who may not be on too many radars and so not have high wage demands.

Re: Gells : Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:11 pm  

I know this would seem like madness given how well he’s played this year but I wonder if they may consider a short term move of French going back to the wing and Field going in to the fullback position. It would feel a more natural move than playing Field on the wing, when from what I gather he’s got no history of playing that position. Lammy seems very focussed on players just doing what is best for the team and until Marshall is fit, that may well be the best move we could make.

We’re stacked in the halfback position and my mind has just been ticking as to why that is. Another move I wondered if Lam may consider is for Hastings to move in to that hooking role permanently and Powell to be given Lockers 13 role. I don’t see that one happening but just throwing options around in my mind given we have 4 first team halfbacks on the books for 2021. There must be a plan to fit at least 3 of them in to the match day 17, if not all 4 considering how talented they are.