: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:40 pm  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

if yas could replace mathers with any full back who would it be?

I'd take a British full-back, if Chris Ashton were ever to return to RL, personally I'd take him.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:43 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I'd take a British full-back, if Chris Ashton were ever to return to RL, personally I'd take him.

He's not much of a defender, but then neither is Mathers. And at least Ashton knows his way to the line - from virtually anywhere on the field. Would I take him back? Erm, yes - no question.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:45 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

He's not much of a defender, but then neither is Mathers. And at least Ashton knows his way to the line - from virtually anywhere on the field. Would I take him back? Erm, yes - no question.

Your right when you say he isn't a good defender, but neither is he a bad one. He linked into the attacking play superbly when he was at Wigan. That said, I'm still hoping Mathers will prove everyone wrong this season, however unlikely that may seem.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:45 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I'd take a British full-back, if Chris Ashton were ever to return to RL, personally I'd take him.

I'd live up to our names and eat humble pie.

I'd take him back.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:31 pm  

wigan pie man wrote:

sorry......cant agree.

dont some players and management look on here??

so if they are underperforming and playing as bad as mathers did on sunday, would it be more helpful to him to say "you did ok, never mind"....or would it be better to say "mathers , you played crap"

turning a blind eye to bad play doesnt help anyone.

blunt, honest opinion does, although it may sound harsh and brutal, it helps in the long run.

ignoring the fact that certain players play crap week in week out is the best way to get em to carry on playing crap, as it leads them to believe the performances they are putting in are acceptable......when in fact , they arnt acceptable.

how many threads have we seen about coleys dire performance ? none
yet mathers get strips torn off him again after just 1 game of 09 ?

its been said the fans allways have a boo boy , and mathers is defo it , some of it being totally unjustified at times ,

from the way this board has gone this week you would think mathers was at fault for every try wakey scored , all the ball we dropped , the lack of moves , the lack of direction and leadership etc etc

lets get things into perspective

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:37 pm  

wiganstu wrote:

how many threads have we seen about coleys dire performance ? none
yet mathers get strips torn off him again after just 1 game of 09 ?

its been said the fans allways have a boo boy , and mathers is defo it , some of it being totally unjustified at times ,

from the way this board has gone this week you would think mathers was at fault for every try wakey scored , all the ball we dropped , the lack of moves , the lack of direction and leadership etc etc

lets get things into perspective

Completely agree.

Coley was average at best last season, and in some parts just dire. The only thing he had going for him was that he was ever-present. Mathers, although some he does deserve, is officially Wigan RL Fans boo boy. An unjustified tag IMHO.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:52 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

There is a fine line between those who just want to slate players and those who want to talk about their on field attributes in detail.

I do agree there people who become to personal in regards to players.

practice what you preach then your one of the worsed mate

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:28 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I'd take a British full-back, if Chris Ashton were ever to return to RL, personally I'd take him.

Chris Ashton was really a one off talent. If he had stayed and worked on his defence he could of easily become one of the best fullbacks around. His attacking game was awesome.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:32 pm  

Do we still hold Ashtons RL registration ??? I've been told we do.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:34 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I'd take a British full-back, if Chris Ashton were ever to return to RL, personally I'd take him.

Search Richard Moore on youtube. He actually runs away from him.

Sorry no thanks - even if you ignore the rumours about him disrupting training sessions he seemed to just give up when he had signed for Northampton.