: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:53 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

took us to a whisker of the GF for the past two seasons and yet it is not enough?.

Trent and the players got us to a final eliminator. On both occasions we were a million miles from making the GF. Our players achieve what they do inspite of noble not because of him.

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:54 pm  

Bolton_Warrior wrote:

look at the progress made while at Wigan

I will leave you to the mercy of Dave O

We went backwards in 2008 compared to 2007 and Dave will show you that.

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:57 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

Trent and the players got us to a final eliminator. On both occasions we were a million miles from making the GF. Our players achieve what they do inspite of noble not because of him.

I knew it wouldn't be long til you showed up

But seriously, yes you could say Trent and the players did, but they didn't coach themselves to it. At times last season we were awful, but every team has a bad stint. It's how the club (that includes coaches and players) respond to them, IMO taking us to 3rd overall, was a good response.

I do expect us to be better this year. Some people may disagree because of the squad we have and although I don't believe we'll win it (Leeds have it in the bag IMO), I think we can push it close and maybe make the GF.

Re: Nobby doubters : Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:02 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

I refuseto even give a poster an answer when they make comments like that

Elucidate.

It's easy to "rolleyes". It's far more difficult to actually contribute a thread that is worthy of consideration.


I look at the facts.

The fact is that Nobby saved us from relegation.

The fact is that Nobby coached us to 3rd twice on the trot.

The fact is that he did this with a squad that wasn't his e.g. Calderwood and Higham.


Now I disagree with many of his decisions, but I cannot argue with the results, and am genuinely bemused by people who do.

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:06 pm  

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:08 pm  

There's no doubting his past record, what he's done for the club and how far he's took us, but i just think he has took us as far as he can. Although i am willing for him to prove me wrong and win us a few trophys this year

Re: Nobby doubters : Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:09 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Firstly I like to believe that I am impartial in every sense. I cannot think of any way that I am biased, or have any prejudice.


I am therefore baffled by the "anti Nobby " brigade on here.

If I look at his record

Not only did he save Wigan RL from relegation, he also steered us to 3rd, twice in a row- a position arguably far in excess of what our squad would normally have merited.

What on earth does this guy have to do to convince some people?

Win a trophy.

Re: Nobby doubters : Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:11 pm  

XBrettKennyX wrote:

Elucidate.

It's easy to "rolleyes". It's far more difficult to actually contribute a thread that is worthy of consideration.


I look at the facts.

The fact is that Nobby saved us from relegation.

The fact is that Nobby coached us to 3rd twice on the trot.

The fact is that he did this with a squad that wasn't his e.g. Calderwood and Higham.


Now I disagree with many of his decisions, but I cannot argue with the results, and am genuinely bemused by people who do.

Change your name. I cannot tolerate the desecration of a legend

You keep making silly comments re the squad. I thus deem you unworthy of my time.

: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:27 pm  

Well if YOU deem me unworthy, then I guess I must........


Or alternatively I ask you again to explain specifically why you argue against my post.


I'll tell you what, as you are clearly struggling with the principles of debate, I will make it easier for you:

1. Explain specifically why my opinion is in some way a desecration of a legend.

2. Explain specifically how my "comments" about the squad are "Silly".


Now personally I am heartbroken about not being worthy of your time. Please treat me more gently in future........

Re: Nobby doubters : Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:28 pm  

Charlie Seeling wrote:

Change your name. I cannot tolerate the desecration of a legend

You keep making silly comments re the squad. I thus deem you unworthy of my time.

Still avoiding the subject though.