: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:27 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

Really?

I'll post the missed tackle % for you again:

Mathers 18%
Gleeson 7%

compare mathers with hicks (last seasons fullback at wire)

Mathers was great in defence

trouble with you lot is you have had Hampson and Radlinski arguably 2 of the best 2 FB's in the game and you judge him by those standards.
He never had a chance with your over critical lot.


and percentages don't always equate to tries Gleeson made more tackles (yes) also made more mistakes which might have been more tries against so your lovely little equation is meaningless

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:32 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

compare mathers with hicks (last seasons fullback at wire)

Mathers was great in defence

End this now..............it's getting silly

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:33 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

trouble with you lot is you have had Hampson and Radlinski arguably 2 of the best 2 FB's in the game and you judge him by those standards.

He never had a chance with your over critical lot.

Mathers was awful. Just awful. Nothing to do with having high standards.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:34 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

Mathers was great in defence

not for wigan he wasn't

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:35 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

not for wigan he wasn't

His tackle on Matt King was a beauty to be fair

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:37 pm  

Mathers...great...defence....

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:47 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

compare mathers with hicks (last seasons fullback at wire)

Mathers was great in defence

trouble with you lot is you have had Hampson and Radlinski arguably 2 of the best 2 FB's in the game and you judge him by those standards.
He never had a chance with your over critical lot.


and percentages don't always equate to tries Gleeson made more tackles (yes) also made more mistakes which might have been more tries against so your lovely little equation is meaningless

SO based on comparing Mathers with Gleeson and who got the best deal you now want me to now compare Mathers with Hicks?

One of the points of percentages are they let you compare proportionality of two things that are not necessarily exactly the same. Just because Gleeson make loads more tackles doesn't mean you can't compare what proportion of tackles he misses. By your bizarre logic we could turn it around and say Gleeson saved hundreds of tries more than Mathers because he made that many more tackles.

Which ever way you put it Mathers missed one tackle in every 5 or 6 he made. Glesson missed one tackle for every 14 he made.

Any rational person can see who has the best defence on that statistic.

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:49 pm  

Wigan/Leeds Andy wrote:

SO based on comparing Mathers with Gleeson and who got the best deal you now want me to now compare Mathers with Hicks?

One of the points of percentages are they let you compare proportionality of two things that are not necessarily exactly the same. Just because Gleeson make loads more tackles doesn't mean you can't compare what proportion of tackle they miss. By your bizarre logic we could turn it around and say Gleeson saved hundreds of tries more than Mathers because he made that many more tackles.

Which ever way you put it Mathers missed one tackle in every 5 or 6 he made. Glesson missed one tackle for every 14 he made.

Any rational person can see who has the best defence on that statistic.

But Mathers now plays for Warrington so ner ner nah ner ner

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:49 pm  

do you guys agree with stadium choice ?

Small full stadium great crowd good for the camera
or
small minded RFL, poor choice, little ambition


Look at the interest already because people think that if they don't get them now then they won't get one at all.

a big stadium probably wouldn't have generated all this panic buying.

Personally i think a bigger stadium would have been better
local derby, you guys want revenge for last month, semi final. I think it would have drummed up a bit more interest and got a crowd of 20k

: Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:51 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

do you guys agree with stadium choice ?

Small full stadium great crowd good for the camera
or
small minded RFL, poor choice, little ambition


Look at the interest already because people think that if they don't get them now then they won't get one at all.

a big stadium probably wouldn't have generated all this panic buying.

Personally i think a bigger stadium would have been better
local derby, you guys want revenge for last month, semi final. I think it would have drummed up a bit more interest and got a crowd of 20k

Try talking sense to the RFL, it'll be like talking foreign