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: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:43 pm  
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good post.
Would you keep him if he was english?

I do see Bailey going at the end of the year, but like you he has grown on me this year.


Agreed with you I see Bailey going at the end of this year & it will free up a considerable amount on the cap
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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:46 pm  
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Nah I think he knows I have him so he has to make a joke to get himself out of it :wink:


I wasn't jokin mate he really is, also he is made of clay and straw and was brought to life by a voodoo priest.
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rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:53 pm  
If Bailey is offered a new deal I'm sure it will be considerably less than he's on now. If that is the case then him staying might be to the benefit of him and the club.
We do need experinced men out there and if he goes he will be replaced by a 20 or 21 year old. Great in ability but short in experience.
A two year deal for 2010/1 will mean he's 31 at the end of that contract.
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: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:02 pm  
We should not be offering Phil Bailey a contract. He is not the quality you should expect from an overseas player looking to improve the squad and offer something that no British alternative or someone from your academy can offer on a reasonable contract. He offers next to nothing in attack. Is only solid in defense if you run straight at him (which is why he is better suited to the back row) because if you run on the angle or with any pace he is easily exposed, as was evident against Leeds. We have Gareth Hock, Joel Tomkins, Sean O'loughlin , Harrison Hansen already in the first team with Lee Mossop and Liam Farrell looking to make the step up. We don't need to waste a quota spot on someone who can play in the second row. He has not lived up to the reputation he came over with as an Australian international and I would sum up his Wigan career as average.

BUT his experience needs replacing. Regardless of his ability he does have plenty of experience and can help support the young lads coming through at the moment and take some responsbility away from Lockers. I don't think we should keep him but this should be replaced by someone else in another position. Prop forward seems the most likely alternative with either Andy Lynch or Luke Bailey both capable of offering this to us. Or even in another area - fullback, centre or scrum half who knows but I would agree with posters that his experience should be valued and replaced. But I disagree when people say we should keep him.
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Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:06 pm  
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If we have the money, why not?

1) Would they want to go to Wigan ?
2) Would the buying of any of those players keep you within the salary cap ?
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Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:09 pm  
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1) Would they want to go to Wigan ?
2) Would the buying of any of those players keep you within the salary cap ?


None of that matters as half of the players quoted are already tied down to contracts.
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rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:15 pm  
The question "would they come to Wigan" answers itself.
Only a couple of weeks ago the RL world was banging on about 9 overseas players. Surely that proves players will come to Wigan.
Would we stay under the SC. Answer if we are going to go over the RFL wouldn't allow us to sign and register a player.
Also Ian Lenagan has said he is not prepared by break the salary cap.
In Lenagan's first year in charge Wigan did not break the cap as the RFL confirmed when stating that no club was in breach.
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Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:18 pm  
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None of that matters as half of the players quoted are already tied down to contracts.

Which ones ? Any proof ?
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Re: rl : Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:19 pm  
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Which ones ? Any proof ?


Mark O'Meley and Jamie Lyon.

http://www.geocities.com/darrylbradford/index.htm

Useful little site that and most of the time is very accurate.
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Mark O'Meley and Jamie Lyon.

http://www.geocities.com/darrylbradford/index.htm

Useful little site that and most of the time is very accurate.
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: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:28 pm  
Although i rate Lynch, he is not the enforcer we need, an enforcing quality Prop has to be a priority for me.
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