: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:27 pm  

In light of recent activity, I thought this was rather apt.

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CHEERS,

ABP.


Give it a watch.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:31 pm  

Search for the 'Andrew Johns Interview' on a well known video clips website.

Rather apt for what happened in recent days.

That ok?

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:07 pm  

Thought that was quite an interesting point made on Rugby League Extra in regards to Hock, if the test comes back positive, instead of firing him keep him involved with club in the community department working with youngsters, educating them on the perils of drug taking. Plus we could keep him more on the straight and narrow, that way when his ban is up we'd be able to reintroduce him into the team.

[DaveO]

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:11 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Thought that was quite an interesting point made on Rugby League Extra in regards to Hock, if the test comes back positive, instead of firing him keep him involved with club in the community department working with youngsters, educating them on the perils of drug taking. Plus we could keep him more on the straight and narrow, that way when his ban is up we'd be able to reintroduce him into the team.

What makes you think the club is capable of doing that? I get the impression the club has been very accommodating to Hock over the years from reading other posts on here and Mikes site and he still blew it.

Can you imagine if he was employed in that capacity and he did this again?

I think if/when test B is positive he has blown his chances with the club. I'd be surprised if he hasn't.

Dacve

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:19 pm  

DaveO wrote:

What makes you think the club is capable of doing that? I get the impression the club has been very accommodating to Hock over the years from reading other posts on here and Mikes site and he still blew it.

Can you imagine if he was employed in that capacity and he did this again?

I think if/when test B is positive he has blown his chances with the club. I'd be surprised if he hasn't.

Dacve

Perhaps this is the big wake up call that Gareth needed, yes I know the lads had a lot of chances, but I honestly believe that if the club releases him if the second test comes back positive, which there well within there rights to do. I think it's highly unlikely he'll return when ever his ban is up.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:23 pm  

AJ wrote:

Fully agree with him. Everyone knows Hock isnt the only one, perhaps he has been unlucky to be caught, the whole of the league should be tested, but regardless of that IL should be testing the whole of our squad.

A test every week, done on a draw basis so nobody knows who will be required to give a sample, should be deterrent enough. Just knowing that one player will DEFINITELY be tested must make them realise there is a very real risk of being caught. If you knew that there was a police trap for drink driving on a particular road, would you take the chance?

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:25 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

Thought that was quite an interesting point made on Rugby League Extra in regards to Hock, if the test comes back positive, instead of firing him keep him involved with club in the community department working with youngsters, educating them on the perils of drug taking. Plus we could keep him more on the straight and narrow, that way when his ban is up we'd be able to reintroduce him into the team.

Kid 1 to Kid 2

"Go and see Gaz, he'll sort you out"!

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:58 pm  

DaveO wrote:

Yes but how rigorous are these tests? I mean do they do the A & B sample thing and not let the employees out of sight until they have produced a sample? The drug testing of sports people is all very strictly policed so there can be no come back about samples being tampered with or false samples being substituted and so on.

If you get all that for £80 a test then fair enough there is no excuse for not mass testing but I assume not?

Dave

Yes we do the A and B test and the employee is supervised all the time till a sample is produced like i said we only test for the recreational drugs. There is also a full written chain of accountability from when the sample is taken to when it reaches the lab it can be accounted for. It has to be very strict as ultimately it could be someones job on the line.

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:07 pm  

The whole system of testing in Rugby League needs to be changed.

In the NRL for instance ,this comes from a player, they get tested every 2 weeks and every day during origin week if in the squads.

This NRL player hasn't been tested for 2 years over here in Superleague and that could lead to temptation could it not?

: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:12 pm  

post wrote:

The whole system of testing in Rugby League needs to be changed.

In the NRL for instance ,this comes from a player, they get tested every 2 weeks and every day during origin week if in the squads.

This NRL player hasn't been tested for 2 years over here in Superleague and that could lead to temptation could it not?

What about joey johns were did his results go?? Swept under the carpet mi thinks!!