Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:27 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think only two games were "moved" Wigan v Bradford played at Widnes and Wigan V HKR played at Leigh. The HKR one was due to the already agreed start of the pitch renewal.

The other time was v Widnes but that wasn't moved as such, just the fixtures reversed.

So that's two games, three if you count Widnes in twenty years!

No major problem IMO.

Exactly

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:28 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think only two games were "moved" Wigan v Bradford played at Widnes and Wigan V HKR played at Leigh. The HKR one was due to the already agreed start of the pitch renewal.

The other time was v Widnes but that wasn't moved as such, just the fixtures reversed.

So that's two games, three if you count Widnes in twenty years!

No major problem IMO.

It's not a major problem logistically, nor has it had that big of an impact.

The issue is from a reputation and perception POV. The moving of games and the relaying of the pitch during the rugby season is has had a negative impact on the club. It's been used by Latics fans to show that under the dual use of the stadium Latics come first. It's also been used a stick by rival fans to ridicule us as 'tenants' in a football ground.

Let's face it, one of the main reasons Latics fans don't want IL to own the ground is because it will reverse the advice. There are plenty of them who are absolutely gleeful that the famous Wigan Rugby are tenants in their ground. It supports the narrative of the town turning blue, or Wigan not being a rugby town anymore.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:37 pm  

Or maybe it's because you don't relay a pitch in December?

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:52 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Or maybe it's because you don't relay a pitch in December?

How do other RL clubs relay pitches then?

Anyway regardless of the reason, has it been used a means to laugh at us?

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:24 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

How do other RL clubs relay pitches then?

Anyway regardless of the reason, has it been used a means to laugh at us?

Most would relay it in September/Ocrober and leave it for 4 months and didn't build a ground on a bog.

I don't care of other fans laugh at us. If they use the "rent boys" line it's usually because we're winning.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:57 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Most would relay it in September/Ocrober and leave it for 4 months and didn't build a ground on a bog.

I don't care of other fans laugh at us. If they use the "rent boys" line it's usually because we're winning.

Exactly, didn't Hull and/or Huddersfield move a couple of games when they were having their pitches relaid?

The rental costs for the DW in the last published accounts were £241K. How much would it cost to build a new ground?

In that same period Saints with their own ground lost over £300K and that was in a season where they were champions, league leaders, got to Wembley and has three home games v Wigan.

Whilst a ground may look good on the balance sheet is it really worth that figure. Ask the Latics, Bury and Bolton fans.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:02 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Whilst a ground may look good on the balance sheet is it really worth that figure. Ask the Latics, Bury and Bolton fans.

Is that a joke?

How about you name some more clubs that have struggled because they own a ground Vs literally 1000's of clubs who do and don't struggle.

Very selective!

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:16 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Is that a joke?

How about you name some more clubs that have struggled because they own a ground Vs literally 1000's of clubs who do and don't struggle.

Very selective!

The point I was making was that many clubs who own their own grounds struggle far more than we do at Wigan.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:54 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The point I was making was that many clubs who own their own grounds struggle far more than we do at Wigan.

But yet many who own a stadium do better. It works both ways.

By all means we can discuss if the option would be right for Wigan, but I can't see how you can point to a handful of struggling clubs and ignore the ones that do it right?

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:14 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

But yet many who own a stadium do better. It works both ways.

By all means we can discuss if the option would be right for Wigan, but I can't see how you can point to a handful of struggling clubs and ignore the ones that do it right?

Saints own their own stadium and probably are the most successful side in Super league history yet they are struggling