Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 22, 2023 1:04 pm  

Lees deserved his ban and Knowles was idiotic and deserves his too.

Not much else to say.

I do still think the Sironen one was mad though and you tackles like that in every game not get in any trouble. It was the definition of a committed tackle with a player taking the ball to the line. Those are the ones that leave me scratching my head, not the Lees and Knowles ones.

Congrats on the win at the weekend - enjoyable match to watch.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 22, 2023 1:21 pm  

Only 2 games for Knowles. I find that pretty staggering tbh.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 22, 2023 1:48 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Lees deserved his ban and Knowles was idiotic and deserves his too.

Not much else to say.

I do still think the Sironen one was mad though and you tackles like that in every game not get in any trouble. It was the definition of a committed tackle with a player taking the ball to the line. Those are the ones that leave me scratching my head, not the Lees and Knowles ones.

Congrats on the win at the weekend - enjoyable match to watch.

Willie Isa's last ban was the most baffling recently. Possibly the best tackle I've seen since Leuluai on Fa'asavalu. The disciplinary notes said he released contact right at the end of the tackle. If that's the case...and I'm not convinced it was... the player was inches from the ground. I'm sure a grown man can survive a free fall of a couple of inches!

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 22, 2023 2:14 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Only 2 games for Knowles. I find that pretty staggering tbh.

Reckon that's about right.

The circumstances of it are monumentally stupid from Knowles but it's not a bad one.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 22, 2023 4:29 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Reckon that's about right.

The circumstances of it are monumentally stupid from Knowles but it's not a bad one.

Reckon 3 would've been fair, 1 for the actual tackle from the RFL and 2 from Saints for going in at 100mph with less than a minute on the clock in a game that was all over.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Wed May 24, 2023 12:17 pm  

Seems Wellens doesn't agree with the apologists: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-le ... s-30057459

Seems Wellens doesn't agree with the apologists: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-le ... s-30057459

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri May 26, 2023 9:08 pm  

After the Dodd drop goal you could see Wellens shouting “short kick off” is he really that dumb?

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri May 26, 2023 9:53 pm  

I can’t lie, tonight is the first time I’ve watched Saints and breathed reasonably easy for 4 or 5 years. Watching Wellens and Matty Smith in deep conversation gave me a feeling of safety for some reason. I still think they’ll have a major say this season but something has definitely walked away with Woolf.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri May 26, 2023 9:58 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I can’t lie, tonight is the first time I’ve watched Saints and breathed reasonably easy for 4 or 5 years. Watching Wellens and Matty Smith in deep conversation gave me a feeling of safety for some reason. I still think they’ll have a major say this season but something has definitely walked away with Woolf.

Yes they're just not there atm. They could always burst into life at the right time and I think there's a good chance they will. But Walmsley and Sironen aside that was as poor a Saints performance as Iv seen since 2017. Leeds with no halfbacks,no subs and missed about 5 or 6 chances to win it.

Wellens just looks affected by everything. He looks too relieved when they win and too shaken when they lose. Warning his players to watch for the short kick off after the golden point drop goal is actually quite telling.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri May 26, 2023 10:56 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

Yes they're just not there atm. They could always burst into life at the right time and I think there's a good chance they will. But Walmsley and Sironen aside that was as poor a Saints performance as Iv seen since 2017. Leeds with no halfbacks,no subs and missed about 5 or 6 chances to win it.

Wellens just looks affected by everything. He looks too relieved when they win and too shaken when they lose. Warning his players to watch for the short kick off after the golden point drop goal is actually quite telling.

They’ll be in there fighting for every trophy but clearly that drive they had under Woolf has gone (for now). That was a drive to not only win games but to win every battle within a game. When it really matters they’ll find it IMO but they’re well below their level at the minute. Wellens looks nervy and unsure of things up in the stands and Matty Smith being alongside him doesn’t un-nerve you (as good a bloke as he is).