Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:04 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

I think that’s a little harsh. Blackpool would fall into that category but Latics survived a few seasons, getting into major finals along the way alongside Europe and historically winning the FA Cup. Even as an avid Warrior and not in anyway a Latics fan you can’t label their stay as a “bizarre blip”. It was actually quite successful.

Been and gone, my friend, been and gone.

Just like a blip of light on a radar screen.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:24 am  

100% Warrior wrote:

I think that’s a little harsh. Blackpool would fall into that category but Latics survived a few seasons, getting into major finals along the way alongside Europe and historically winning the FA Cup. Even as an avid Warrior and not in anyway a Latics fan you can’t label their stay as a “bizarre blip”. It was actually quite successful.

Yes they did very well - some of those achievements were incredible. I remember speaking to a few Latics fans right after their FA Cup win and subsequent relegation. They said they wouldn't have swapped the cup win for staying in the division. Although I understood why they said it I'm not sure they would hold the same view now.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:15 am  

MadDogg wrote:

Yes they did very well - some of those achievements were incredible. I remember speaking to a few Latics fans right after their FA Cup win and subsequent relegation. They said they wouldn't have swapped the cup win for staying in the division. Although I understood why they said it I'm not sure they would hold the same view now.

I was and still am of that view as a Latics fan. We were treading water in the prem, you always are as a club of that size. Relegation at some point was a given and there’s no way of knowing what a delay in that relegation may have achieved. That day at Wembley, winning the FA Cup against a club with the resources of Man City was incredible and it cannot be taken away. In years to come people will remember that achievement but they wouldn’t have remembered an extra season or two sitting at the foot of the premier league table.

Ultimately the troubles now against that FA Cup win and relegation don’t go hand in hand. They’re many years apart and as a club Latics had millions coming in from parachute payments for years. The poor use of them via bad signings and shocking managerial appointments started the rot and the Chinese put the nails in the coffin (funnily enough at a time when on the field I think the side was in its best place since the prem days and would’ve had a shot at getting back up there this season if this all hadn’t come about).

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:52 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

A stadium for sale for next to nothing

A plot of land for sale ready for development housing/industrial use.

Would not take long to demolish a falling down stadium.

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:30 pm  

satanicmills wrote:

Egg Chasing wrote:

A stadium for sale for next to nothing

A plot of land for sale ready for development housing/industrial use.

Would not take long to demolish a falling down stadium.

Don't talk ridiculous.

Firstly, the only use of the land can be for sporting use, under both planning and council regulation. Secondly, its hardly crumbling down. Its a modern state of the art stadium, that looks a bit tired because it hasn't been used for 12 months, nor had anything spent on it because of latics plight. Sure there would be some initial outlay but nothing beyond general repair / remediation work....few seats, panels on the stands etc and a bit of a spruce up. When you look at some other 'stadiums' in both super league and the football league, it is in a damn site better nick and practically new....20 years into a realistically usable period of between 100-150 years.

That stadium will outlive all of us so long as its used, so there's very little to worry about in that regard. Its who picks up the liability for maintenance moving forward and whether we think we can make it commercially viable. Notwithstanding comments of some, I firmly believe we could....most properly run stadiums generate a profit, its more the mis-management of the stadium thats caused the problem

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:53 pm  

afootingmiracle21-12 wrote:

Don't talk ridiculous.

Firstly, the only use of the land can be for sporting use, under both planning and council regulation. Secondly, its hardly crumbling down. Its a modern state of the art stadium, that looks a bit tired because it hasn't been used for 12 months, nor had anything spent on it because of latics plight. Sure there would be some initial outlay but nothing beyond general repair / remediation work....few seats, panels on the stands etc and a bit of a spruce up. When you look at some other 'stadiums' in both super league and the football league, it is in a damn site better nick and practically new....20 years into a realistically usable period of between 100-150 years.

That stadium will outlive all of us so long as its used, so there's very little to worry about in that regard. Its who picks up the liability for maintenance moving forward and whether we think we can make it commercially viable. Notwithstanding comments of some, I firmly believe we could....most properly run stadiums generate a profit, its more the mis-management of the stadium thats caused the problem

The stadium made a loss on paper.

Its all about the tax

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:02 pm  

afootingmiracle21-12 wrote:

Don't talk ridiculous.

Firstly, the only use of the land can be for sporting use, under both planning and council regulation. Secondly, its hardly crumbling down. Its a modern state of the art stadium, that looks a bit tired because it hasn't been used for 12 months, nor had anything spent on it because of latics plight. Sure there would be some initial outlay but nothing beyond general repair / remediation work....few seats, panels on the stands etc and a bit of a spruce up. When you look at some other 'stadiums' in both super league and the football league, it is in a damn site better nick and practically new....20 years into a realistically usable period of between 100-150 years.

That stadium will outlive all of us so long as its used, so there's very little to worry about in that regard. Its who picks up the liability for maintenance moving forward and whether we think we can make it commercially viable. Notwithstanding comments of some, I firmly believe we could....most properly run stadiums generate a profit, its more the mis-management of the stadium thats caused the problem

The goings on with the original planning may well take a looking at.
Desperate times ahead who knows what might happen.Its only another parcel of land that is keeping the club looking anything like solvent.Dont look like Lenagan willing to chuck any more money at it.
Time club got realistic.All lenagan has done since he arrived is cut wages.

[Pemps]

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:16 pm  

satanicmills wrote:

All lenagan has done since he arrived is cut wages.

Computer says troll

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:35 pm  

Pemps wrote:

Computer says troll

Yep. That was the bit where he ran out of credit.

They always show their ignorance in the end (or usually, as in this case, a long time before then).

Re: Latics in administration - Lenagan leading bid : Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:40 pm  

All he’s done is give the most marquee contracts out. All he’s done is spend the cap each season and use every dispensation available to spend over it (legally). All he’s done is build the club back up to help us win multiple trophies. All he’s done is drive the values of the club and put pride back in the badge.

I wouldn’t rule out him ‘only’ ending up purchasing the stadium but we shall see. He isn’t on his own anymore in terms of funding the club, with him having brought in a couple of wealthy shareholders so we’ll see what they can do. As a supporter of both clubs I’d ideally like to see the ground in the hands of somebody who will do their best for both clubs.