Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:58 am  

Conroy wrote:

It's the 5th meeting between us this season alone and will probably lead to the 6th in 2 weeks time. That's too often even for Wigan and Saints.

People who are struggling for cash (which is a hell of a lot at the moment) would rather pay £20 to watch the same game in 2 weeks time when it actually means something.

The poor crowds are due to the ridiculous format of the playoffs.

Another reason why the "League Leaders Shield" is NOT a real trophy. If you are having a League then each side HAS to play each other the same amount of times. Not doing so makes it uneven and a joke.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:37 am  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Another idea

top 4 go into a mini league

1st place team gets 3 home games
2nd 1 away 2 home
3rd 2 away 1 home
4th 3 away

Top 2 in the GF

Beauty of this is we don't see 5th being rewarded, teams in the 4 are rewarded on position, points difference could be a factor meaning teams have to look to battering teams to make sure, high intensity games.

NO clubcall
All teams in the 4 play same amount of games
You only play the same team twice in a GF.

Thats the best system ive seen. Sky still get plenty games to cover and we dont get crap teams in making up the numbers so the potential is there for every game to be a classic.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:44 am  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Another idea

top 4 go into a mini league

1st place team gets 3 home games
2nd 1 away 2 home
3rd 2 away 1 home
4th 3 away

Top 2 in the GF

Beauty of this is we don't see 5th being rewarded, teams in the 4 are rewarded on position, points difference could be a factor meaning teams have to look to battering teams to make sure, high intensity games.

NO clubcall
All teams in the 4 play same amount of games
You only play the same team twice in a GF.

The problem with that is you could get completely meaningless games in the last round. Say for example 1 and 2 both play 3 and 4 in the first two rounds and both win each game, the 1 v 2 and 3 v 4 games in the 3rd week mean nothing.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:21 am  

Dave T wrote:

The thing I don't like about the Australian system is that you can leave a game and not know whether you are still in the comp or out.

At least in ours we kniow which games are knockouts.

That'd be the price you pay for finish lower down the league though.

IMO that would add to the tension of the playoffs for all involved, which isn't a bad thing in my view.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:11 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Another idea

top 4 go into a mini league

1st place team gets 3 home games
2nd 1 away 2 home
3rd 2 away 1 home
4th 3 away

Top 2 in the GF

Beauty of this is we don't see 5th being rewarded, teams in the 4 are rewarded on position, points difference could be a factor meaning teams have to look to battering teams to make sure, high intensity games.

NO clubcall
All teams in the 4 play same amount of games
You only play the same team twice in a GF.

I like this one but as said, the danger of dead runners would be a factor.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:43 pm  

inside_man wrote:

That'd be the price you pay for finish lower down the league though.

IMO that would add to the tension of the playoffs for all involved, which isn't a bad thing in my view.

Still not convinced tbh mate. You could leave the match on Friday and not know until two days later if you are in or out. Hardly gripping or fan-friendly. If the games were all kicking off at the same time, it could work well, but obviously that won't happen.

I don't mind our playoff too much tbh.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:06 pm  

the problem with our system is that it rewards mediocrity. You can finish less than half way down the table and make the playoffs, it should have stayed the top 6 when we went to 14 teams.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:29 pm  

We could have a top 7 play-off. At least a team would have to finish in the top half of the table to qualify for the play-offs. This year, of course, Hull would miss out.

week one...Top team gets a week off as a reward for finishing first.
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5
semi...top plays lowest place winners from week one
other two teams play each other.

This year it could work like this:

week one
Warrington get a week off.
Wigan beat Hull K R
St Helens beat Catalans
Huddersfield lose to Leeds Rhinos

semis
Warrington v Leeds
Wigan v Saints

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:39 pm  

Dave T wrote:

I don't mind our playoff too much tbh.

I can't stand it. The team choice is ridiculous. And its set up so that if it all goes to form (i.e. highest place always wins) then the Semi's will be exactly the same as the first round games.

Re: Attendance - Wigan vs Saints : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:49 pm  

The playoff format at the moment is wrong, I tried to explain to a colleague at work that Wigan and saints play each other at the weekend and will probably play each other again in a fortnight......

it needs a total rethink, and has been commented on Wigan v saints 6 times a season its nearly as bad as Scottish football