: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:43 pm  

Legend That Sorts It wrote:

could someone please tell me what tim smith has done so badly wrong last year he showed some nice touches, this year hes had a full pre season judge him later in the year not one game in for god sake. i suppose after barretts first ever game for wigan he had against warrington he should of been dropped, coz he did nothin that night

I didn't go to the game but from what people have said who were there, all Wakey's tries came down his side and when Lockers was put there, defensively that side suddenly became OK(ish).

It's not Smiths fault for poor defense on his side, but from what I've been hearing (which could be wrong so if it is please correct me) he had a bad game.

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:48 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

I didn't go to the game but from what people have said who were there, all Wakey's tries came down his side and when Lockers was put there, defensively that side suddenly became OK(ish).

It's not Smiths fault for poor defense on his side, but from what I've been hearing (which could be wrong so if it is please correct me) he had a bad game.

they scored one try off a kick, that had nothin to do with smith, more roberts not being match fit. the other try there was 5 or 6 missed tackles one was by smith so i suppose thats why they scored had nothing to do with roberts missing him twice then phelps then im not 100 percent sure but i think lockers missed a tackle

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:50 pm  

Don't quote me on this, but i'm sure that they said a few months back that mcilorum would miss the start of SL due to injury, automatically limiting us to one hooker.
So surely one obvious solution would be sam tomkins on bench, bring him on at 7 and switch tommy to hooker with riddell off.
Realistically noble isn't going to try tomkins, so maybe have phelps as the other hooker, we need a second choice there.
Phelps's best game last year was when he played hooker, he was everywhere in defence, and took us forward creating quite a lot. That is until he got knocked out.
Noble needs a change and fast, choose, tomkins, phelps or tommy not your suicidal lockers to 6, something that may improve on that dismal effort yesterday or we will be annihilated against Hull and any other side we face.

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:50 pm  

Legend That Sorts It wrote:

they scored one try off a kick, that had nothin to do with smith, more roberts not being match fit. the other try there was 5 or 6 missed tackles one was by smith so i suppose thats why they scored had nothing to do with roberts missing him twice then phelps then im not 100 percent sure but i think lockers missed a tackle

Faie enough, like I said I weren't there so I can't criticise. However, I don't think the problem at half-back is Smith, I think it's LeuLaui.

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:52 pm  

Tim Smith will get a load of stick this year because hes filling Barretts boots. The same people that have blasted O'Loughlin for years because hes filling Farrells boots.

In reality Smith should not be playing 6. Hes a scrum half not a stand off. Its already been said Noble was hell bent on wanting Greg Bird this year and he will be proven correct.

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:53 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Faie enough, like I said I weren't there so I can't criticise. However, I don't think the problem at half-back is Smith, I think it's LeuLaui.

After 1 SL game nothin can be said about smith or lulu, lets be honest in to freindlys we scored over 60 points so theres no problem at half backs

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:39 pm  

Legend That Sorts It wrote:

After 1 SL game nothin can be said about smith or lulu, lets be honest in to freindlys we scored over 60 points so theres no problem at half backs

I know, Leigh were shocking!

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:34 pm  

I think we all know that Noble wont make any changes on friday.

Noble, despite his record seems very very stubborn. No other coach in SL would select Phelps, Coley or Mathers after yesterdays fiasco. I bet they all play in Hull

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:53 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

McGuire was dropped from Leeds Challenge Cup final side v Bradford or Hull.

Both Burrow and McGuire were brought along slowly at Leeds, which is something I think the majority of Wigan fans want with Sam.

I certainly remember them both playing academy rugby well after they had made their senior Leeds debuts.

I think you are stretching it Rogues. Both came into the first team far younger than Sam. Sinfield even younger.

The Wigan young players must have a genetic defect that make them different from every other SL club's youngsters.

: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:55 pm  

Legend That Sorts It wrote:

After 1 SL game nothin can be said about smith or lulu, lets be honest in to freindlys we scored over 60 points so theres no problem at half backs

The problems were evident from the Wire friendly. We only score flukey tries v Hudersfield and should have put 60+ on Leigh.