: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:00 am  

cadoo wrote:

We couldn't just release players without them agreeing to it. They have to agree to it for us to do it or we would have to pay them compensation.

If they aren't playing first team rugby then why would they not.

Smith & Phelps are likely to go at of 09 anyway, as is Mathers.

We must have the outgoings lined up because if IL pays the fee, its done.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:00 am  

Bridger wrote:

I think you'll find Gleeson is shirt number 3 actually.

@ Warrington

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:02 am  

Don't know if this has been mentioned in the earlier pages, but possible rumour that Goulding may only be going out on loan(not neccisarily to Warrington), because the club have in vested highly in him, with the chances that Carmont and Phelps leaving at the end of the season, our centres for next year will be Gleeson and Goulding.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:32 am  

Cruncher wrote:

This is of course true, but I can't see any reason why the four players most mentioned in this thread so far - Goulding, Mathers, Phelps, Smith - would have a problem leaving Wigan. Right or wrong, none of them seem to figure in Noble's first team plans at present.

- Phelps would struggle to find a new club because he is injured at the moment.

- Mathers is injured at the moment as well so the same would apply

- Tim Smith I can't see anyone really taking him on.

Darrell Goulding is the only one I can see wanting to leave knowing he can find a club.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:36 am  

cadoo wrote:

- Phelps would struggle to find a new club because he is injured at the moment.

- Mathers is injured at the moment as well so the same would apply

- Tim Smith I can't see anyone really taking him on.

Darrell Goulding is the only one I can see wanting to leave knowing he can find a club.

Mathers will probably be part for the deal.

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:04 am  

AJ wrote:

@ Warrington

Spoil sport

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:42 am  

RB wrote:

They don't normally talk about rumours on there unless they have some substance.

Well they usually talk a load of sh*te so this could just be business as usual......

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:03 am  

cadoo wrote:

- Phelps would struggle to find a new club because he is injured at the moment.

- Mathers is injured at the moment as well so the same would apply

- Tim Smith I can't see anyone really taking him on.

Darrell Goulding is the only one I can see wanting to leave knowing he can find a club.

I disagree with every one of those assessments, except the one about Goulding.

None of the injuries - as far as I'm aware - are serious (and if they are, that provides yet another reason why the players concerned might leave). Tim Smith was taken on by Wigan despite his well documented problems. His talent is undeniable; it's his attitude that sucks - there's many a coach who might fancy his chances of reining that in (especially if Smith is presented to him as a cheap option).

But what we were talking about was whether the players themselves might want to leave. I still see no reason why any of the above four would have a burning desire to stay at Wigan. Phelps, Mathers and Smith have all been lambasted by the fans - Smith has had his every move spied upon and reported back to message boards like this, while none of the four seem to figure in Noble's plans. Why not look for pastures new under those circs?

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:05 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I disagree with every one of those assessments, except the one about Goulding.

None of the injuries - as far as I'm aware - are serious (and if they are, that provides yet another reason why the players concerned might leave). Tim Smith was taken on by Wigan despite his well documented problems. His talent is undeniable; it's his attitude that sucks - there's many a coach who might fancy his chances of reining that in (especially if Smith is presented to him as a cheap option).

But what we were talking about was whether the players themselves might want to leave. I still see no reason why any of the above four would have a burning desire to stay at Wigan. Phelps, Mathers and Smith have all been lambasted by the fans - Smith has had his every move spied upon and reported back to message boards like this, while none of the four seem to figure in Noble's plans.

I agree!

Anyway, does anyone know what time the press conference is?

: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:24 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I disagree with every one of those assessments, except the one about Goulding.

None of the injuries - as far as I'm aware - are serious (and if they are, that provides yet another reason why the players concerned might leave). Tim Smith was taken on by Wigan despite his well documented problems. His talent is undeniable; it's his attitude that sucks - there's many a coach who might fancy his chances of reining that in (especially if Smith is presented to him as a cheap option).

But what we were talking about was whether the players themselves might want to leave. I still see no reason why any of the above four would have a burning desire to stay at Wigan. Phelps, Mathers and Smith have all been lambasted by the fans - Smith has had his every move spied upon and reported back to message boards like this, while none of the four seem to figure in Noble's plans. Why not look for pastures new under those circs?

Mathers will end up at wire as Tony Smith wants him and Mathers likes Smith as a coach.

Also believe we are close to agreeing a fee for Gleeson with a 2 player swap as well.

Have been told time and time again Goulding is going playing for a Yorkshire club if this is permanent or on loan i dont know.