Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Fri May 12, 2023 4:49 pm  

NSW wrote:

Considered it but SOL missed a lot of time with injury. Also under we’ve had a few bad years under Lockers.

Have saints every missed the playoffs with Roby?

Roby edges it for me.

Roby had barren years aswell,but for me SOL had a better all round game,never saw Roby nail a pass left to right to Sarge at pace like SOL did,his skill set was higher than Roby but in no means I am denigrating Roby fantastic player but not quite as good as Lockers.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Sat May 13, 2023 12:14 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

Roby had barren years aswell,but for me SOL had a better all round game,never saw Roby nail a pass left to right to Sarge at pace like SOL did,his skill set was higher than Roby but in no means I am denigrating Roby fantastic player but not quite as good as Lockers.

I think Kev Sinfield is in for a shout. On his day he was 1st class

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Sat May 13, 2023 7:19 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

SOL for me then Roby.

Ahahahahaha

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Sat May 13, 2023 8:06 pm  

WWste wrote:

I think Kev Sinfield is in for a shout. On his day he was 1st class

4th best loose forward of the SL era IMO

Great captain, great goal kicker but overrated as a player.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Sat May 13, 2023 8:15 pm  

Sinfield was the glue that held that great Leeds side together but as an individual player, I don’t think he’d be in my top 15-20 from the Superleague era.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 15, 2023 7:22 am  

I think what this season is showing so far is that despite the open nature of it, the quality is low. Warrington looked to be the real deal this season early on then were comfortably beaten by Wigan and then Saints with a number of players missing.

Wigan then looked to be the team to beat and they have since had a couple of defeats on the bounce and that capitulation against Leeds.

Meanwhile we have been largely poor all season bar the Warrington game yet we win our game in hand and we are only 2 points behind Wigan.

We only had to lift our intensity in the second half on Saturday and Salford went to pieces. I still say that Salford are the best side in the comp attacking wise when they throw it about but they folded on Saturday when put under pressure.

Catalan look really good in patches too but are still largely inconsistent. And as for Leeds well no-one knows how they are going to play from one week to the next.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 15, 2023 4:34 pm  

Even though it's true that Salford fell apart in that second half it was helped along more than a little by some utterly bizarre refereeing decisions. How you kept 13 men on the field in the current climate is completely unfathomable. Worse still, the referee insisting the downed Salford player leave the field after being blindsided by a cowardly attack from Lees and then awarding a 6 again as Salford tried to regroup from his error. Wow...just wow! The man is a buffoon!

As to Lees and his latest "indiscretion", words fail me. He won't be happy until he puts someone out for the season. Oh, wait a minute...

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 15, 2023 4:48 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

Even though it's true that Salford fell apart in that second half it was helped along more than a little by some utterly bizarre refereeing decisions. How you kept 13 men on the field in the current climate is completely unfathomable. Worse still, the referee insisting the downed Salford player leave the field after being blindsided by a cowardly attack from Lees and then awarding a 6 again as Salford tried to regroup from his error. Wow...just wow! The man is a buffoon!

As to Lees and his latest "indiscretion", words fail me. He won't be happy until he puts someone out for the season. Oh, wait a minute...

I thought it was just Saints fans that had an issue with Kendall?

Ridiculous to say that the broken ankle is a result of the swinging arm, thats just bad luck. Seconds before Lees drops the ball that leads to his swinging arm, Ritson is hit high and Saints get the penalty. Direct contact to the head but no Salford player is up before the MRP.

Every time someone is guilty of a high shot, if the opponent falls as a result then are they all at risk of breaking an ankle? Wright has just had bad luck in this instance but how that can be linked to a direct result of his tackle is a joke.

Sironen's late hit was described by Kendall in his chat with Roby as 50/50. He was fully committed yet is hit by a 1 game ban. I don't believe that there are no other similar hits in any other SL game.

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Mon May 15, 2023 9:09 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

Roby had barren years aswell,but for me SOL had a better all round game,never saw Roby nail a pass left to right to Sarge at pace like SOL did,his skill set was higher than Roby but in no means I am denigrating Roby fantastic player but not quite as good as Lockers.

Cunningham was better than Roby, so was Scully, Faz, Barrett, Lyon...in fact quite a few but Roby's toughness to keep going for so long has to be admired and applauded

Re: Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE : Tue May 16, 2023 5:57 am  

Stu M wrote:

I thought it was just Saints fans that had an issue with Kendall?

Ridiculous to say that the broken ankle is a result of the swinging arm, thats just bad luck. Seconds before Lees drops the ball that leads to his swinging arm, Ritson is hit high and Saints get the penalty. Direct contact to the head but no Salford player is up before the MRP.

Every time someone is guilty of a high shot, if the opponent falls as a result then are they all at risk of breaking an ankle? Wright has just had bad luck in this instance but how that can be linked to a direct result of his tackle is a joke.

Sironen's late hit was described by Kendall in his chat with Roby as 50/50. He was fully committed yet is hit by a 1 game ban. I don't believe that there are no other similar hits in any other SL game.

the problem you've got Stu (in this instance) is you are on a Wigan board and the majority will see it differently to you as a Saints fan, and it works the other way round too, when it comes to Wigan indiscretions .

However, in general, you assessment of the MRP / some refs is fair. It is baffling sometimes, that someone you expect to see up there isnt, and equally, ones you dont notice during a game are up there and get a ban

Re Sironen, he has history, and was up for 3 in the MRP, so there was a good chance he was going to cop a ban and equally Lees, has been sin binned a couple of times this year, with no fault found so to speak, but then no ban. So from that perspective, you can sort of understand some of the frustration from Saints fans, but sin binning doesnt necessarily mean ban incoming

The margins this year in particular with regards to the late hits are so fine its untrue. However, i watched the Wigan v Leeds game back last night whilst riding my bike, and listened to the commentary when Tetavano got sent off. All the former players, were of the opinion he could have pulled out and it was unnecessary to hit Smith. I didnt think it was nasty, but marginally late, and it did end up a bit high. He has copped a 2 game ban for it too, so the MRP must have considered it bad enough to warrant that.

i also agree with your comment about high hit and broken ankle. Unfortunately, thats bad luck and not an expected injury from a high shot.