Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu May 11, 2017 10:57 pm  

I never saw Sutcliffe as a half, but he could make a good 13.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 7:40 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

What?! This season he's kicking at 85% vs Escare's 60%...

Those stats shock me as everytime I have seen him his kicking hasn't been great and at times others have kicked instead of him.
I would like to see where abouts on the field he's kicked from as Leeds do score more through the middle.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 9:19 am  

CobraCraig wrote:

Those stats shock me as everytime I have seen him his kicking hasn't been great and at times others have kicked instead of him.
I would like to see where abouts on the field he's kicked from as Leeds do score more through the middle.

You make a good point. Every time Ryan Hall pulls on an England jersey he proves his class. Yet he is NEVER in the top try scorers at the end of the season. Leeds just don't play expansive rugby. They have two good centres but they aren't great at putting their winger away.

Whoever kicks for Wigan has to convert from way out most of the time. Escare is a poor kicker and is not the answer. We need to find someone.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 10:05 am  

Grimmy wrote:

I thought Sutcliffe was a stand off? Would that mean Leuluai to 9 and McIlorum out?

Disregarding Sutcliffe for a second, its long been an opinion of mine that this season may well be the last for McIlorum at Wigan. Escare (prior to his injury) was going excellent at FB and for me it would, and still could be, a good reason to move Sam back into the halves alongside Williams. This leaves TL without a position in the halves which means he pushes to hooker. At hooker we've got a very good developed hooker in Powell and for me TL is a decent back up from the bench.

This then leaves McIlorum in the cold. As good as he is/has been, I genuinely think his best days are gone and we've better options available to us.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 10:40 am  

Sutcliffe is contracted to the end of next year so we would have to pay a fee to get him next year and I'm not sure he's worth it.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 11:12 am  

CobraCraig wrote:

Sutcliffe is contracted to the end of next year so we would have to pay a fee to get him next year and I'm not sure he's worth it.

Leeds Rhinos have been boosted by the news young playmaker Liam Sutcliffe has signed a new three-year deal with the Super League club.

The 19-year-old, who was promoted to number 18 in the club’s squad numbers for 2015, is now tied to the Headingley Carnegie club at least until the end of the 2017 Super League season.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 11:37 am  

Ashton Bears wrote: Leeds Rhinos have been boosted by the news young playmaker Liam Sutcliffe has signed a new three-year deal with the Super League club. The 19-year-old, who was promoted to number 18 in the club’s squad numbers for 2015, is now tied to the Headingley Carnegie club at least until the end of the 2017 Super League season. http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-8523475 Recent article confirming he is contracted to the end of next season

Ashton Bears wrote: Leeds Rhinos have been boosted by the news young playmaker Liam Sutcliffe has signed a new three-year deal with the Super League club. The 19-year-old, who was promoted to number 18 in the club’s squad numbers for 2015, is now tied to the Headingley Carnegie club at least until the end of the 2017 Super League season. http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-8523475 Recent article confirming he is contracted to the end of next season

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 12:20 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Disregarding Sutcliffe for a second, its long been an opinion of mine that this season may well be the last for McIlorum at Wigan. Escare (prior to his injury) was going excellent at FB and for me it would, and still could be, a good reason to move Sam back into the halves alongside Williams. This leaves TL without a position in the halves which means he pushes to hooker. At hooker we've got a very good developed hooker in Powell and for me TL is a decent back up from the bench.

This then leaves McIlorum in the cold. As good as he is/has been, I genuinely think his best days are gone and we've better options available to us.

He's just had a year off, only now starting to get his fitness back. Let's see how he goes for the rest of the year. It will be harder, with all the changes going on around, but I back him to come good.
Also, he's got his eye off the ball with all his Testimonial commitments this year.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 12:23 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Disregarding Sutcliffe for a second, its long been an opinion of mine that this season may well be the last for McIlorum at Wigan. Escare (prior to his injury) was going excellent at FB and for me it would, and still could be, a good reason to move Sam back into the halves alongside Williams. This leaves TL without a position in the halves which means he pushes to hooker. At hooker we've got a very good developed hooker in Powell and for me TL is a decent back up from the bench.

This then leaves McIlorum in the cold. As good as he is/has been, I genuinely think his best days are gone and we've better options available to us.

It's a shame because of how long he has been with us but I'm inclined to agree. I watch Hodgson/Roby/Clark then look at McIlorum and can't help but feel we may be missing a trick at 9. Thinking where he would end up is sometimes a guide, I don't think Wire/Saints/Leeds/Hull FC would be falling over themselves to get him on board.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Fri May 12, 2017 1:01 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

It's a shame because of how long he has been with us but I'm inclined to agree. I watch Hodgson/Roby/Clark then look at McIlorum and can't help but feel we may be missing a trick at 9. Thinking where he would end up is sometimes a guide, I don't think Wire/Saints/Leeds/Hull FC would be falling over themselves to get him on board.

Exactly, it seems to be only doe eyed tinted glasses wearing fans that rate him so highly, apart from his ferocious tackles he offers very little to the side, Powell is by far the better number 9 at the club