Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 9:49 am  

Its too structured. Many teams star players aren't FB or 7. He's listed a centre as one of the less 'costly' positions, but how could a team bring in a top class centre i.e Cooper or Gasnier on that salary? Just wouldnt happen.
Look at Huddersfield their biggest earner is a SR. He wouldn't have come if they would have used Phils model.

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 10:02 am  

EastStandFaithful wrote:

Yes that is interesting and it makes me wonder based on the fans forum comments of IFL why the RFL dont do a Melbourne type investigation of certain clubs.

Do you think the club that plans its playing staff 4 years in advance is Wigan?

One leading Super League club have even got about 90 percent of their squad identified for four years from now. Their forward planning is one of the reasons why they consistently outperform every other team in the competition.

One of Wigan, Warrington, Leeds or Sintellins. All said to have good-to-excellent youth setups so could be any of those; however, which of those is Clarkey closest to so that he might have the inside track?

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 10:19 am  

WigansForeignLegion wrote:

One of Wigan, Warrington, Leeds or Sintellins. All said to have good-to-excellent youth setups so could be any of those; however, which of those is Clarkey closest to so that he might have the inside track?

Exactly my thoughts!

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 11:50 am  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Its too structured. Many teams star players aren't FB or 7. He's listed a centre as one of the less 'costly' positions, but how could a team bring in a top class centre i.e Cooper or Gasnier on that salary? Just wouldnt happen.
Look at Huddersfield their biggest earner is a SR. He wouldn't have come if they would have used Phils model.

But that's the point, how you would aim to build a squad completely from scratch. In reality a lot depends on existing players in the squad and who's available.

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 1:32 pm  

Can anyone please clarify how the salary cap actually works when it comes to players' win bonuses?

Surely the players must get extra money if they win a match or get rewarded if they progress further in the CC or Play Offs, or even win the GF.

How can all this be factored in at the start of the season when there is no way of predicting how successful a team will be? Or do players not get any win bonus or for that matter any extra money for actually playing?

Surely, that can't be the case, but if not how do the finances work?

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 4:25 pm  

The clubs tell the RFL what they want them to know.
The RFL don't check the player's bank accounts etc.
So how can the RFL really know what a player earns from his club whether it is salary or bonuses.

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 5:30 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

The clubs tell the RFL what they want them to know.
The RFL don't check the player's bank accounts etc.
So how can the RFL really know what a player earns from his club whether it is salary or bonuses.

Surely it's not that bad? Even the RFL can't be that incompetent?

What about the cap being live?

It would be useful to know exactly how the RFL monitor the cap on a daily basis.

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 5:32 pm  

how can anyone track cash in hand?

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 5:55 pm  

pk wrote:

how can anyone track cash in hand?

They can't, hence Warrington's sudden success

Re: Rumours and signings v6 (inc Maguire Rumours) : Sun May 15, 2011 8:44 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

The clubs tell the RFL what they want them to know.
The RFL don't check the player's bank accounts etc.
So how can the RFL really know what a player earns from his club whether it is salary or bonuses.

They might not be able to but HMRC could if there was suspicion of tax-evasion (as indirectly suggested by others).