Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:31 pm  

Let him go, he won’t be missed. Has been steady for us but isn’t the player he thinks he still is.

Crazy that this time last year he was in the press saying he’s the best fullback in the league and now he isn’t even 2nd best fullback at Wigan.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:12 pm  

Get rid!

On a 6 figure salary playing for one of the biggest clubs in the sport and he whinges about a drive he has to do, he wants to get in the real world.

If it’s true he’s not putting his all into training, being late or undermining Peet we should get rid.

I’d rather struggle with young lad or back rower in the centres rather than put up with that.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:55 pm  

Without making any comments about his character, it's just poor allocation of resources in a salary capped sport to have one of your top earners never playing in his proper position. You could even argue the same for French, but at least he can be a major threat playing his natural game out on the wing - just not quite as much as if he were full back.

Hardaker is still an excellent full back, but only an above average centre/winger. If we can spend his wage on a younger, specialist replacement, then it's a no brainer.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:37 pm  

I'm not going to make any sweeping statements about him, from what I could see the club have handled it, Hardaker made a comment to suggest he's gonna get his head down in training, onwards and upwards.... etc. He's still an integral part of our structure, let's get him playing until the end of the season and play his contract out.

If however we continue to have him sidelined or there's additional issues then that's another matter, but until then lets give him our support.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:55 pm  

MattyB wrote:

I'm not going to make any sweeping statements about him, from what I could see the club have handled it, Hardaker made a comment to suggest he's gonna get his head down in training, onwards and upwards.... etc. He's still an integral part of our structure, let's get him playing until the end of the season and play his contract out.

If however we continue to have him sidelined or there's additional issues then that's another matter, but until then lets give him our support.

I haven’t got a clue if the rumours are true or not but to me signing a player on loan who has “history” with the club (Leeds) at the same time of just announcing a new coach from Australia seems a little implausible.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:28 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote: I haven’t got a clue if the rumours are true or not but to me signing a player on loan who has “history” with the club (Leeds) at the same time of just announcing a new coach from Australia seems a little implausible. May be legs in it: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/le ... use-clash/ Leeds chief executive Gary Hetherington was asked about the 30-year-old during his recent press conference. He responded: “We’re in a situation where we’re looking any player that can add value. “We don’t need me to talk about the virtues of Zak Hardaker; he’s an outstanding player. “We have been scouring the market just to see what players may be available and indeed if the club will release them and if we have enough space on our own cap. “There’s quite a lot of decisions to be made there. Such as our plight, we have 10 players missing, so we are looking to make things happen. “We’re grateful for any quality player who may be available.”

Itchy Arsenal wrote: I haven’t got a clue if the rumours are true or not but to me signing a player on loan who has “history” with the club (Leeds) at the same time of just announcing a new coach from Australia seems a little implausible. May be legs in it: https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/le ... use-clash/ Leeds chief executive Gary Hetherington was asked about the 30-year-old during his recent press conference. He responded: “We’re in a situation where we’re looking any player that can add value. “We don’t need me to talk about the virtues of Zak Hardaker; he’s an outstanding player. “We have been scouring the market just to see what players may be available and indeed if the club will release them and if we have enough space on our own cap. “There’s quite a lot of decisions to be made there. Such as our plight, we have 10 players missing, so we are looking to make things happen. “We’re grateful for any quality player who may be available.”

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:00 pm  

If we can replace him let him go, if we can’t don’t.

Given our quota status though I don’t see how we can replace him with a better player.

Wardle, Newman, Percival King etc are not going to be allowed to move can’t see Gildart coming home till end of the year at least and we can’t look overseas unless we offload a player (Miski).

Let him go at the end of the year, absolutely and we have no choice anyway but I don’t see how we can let him go yet and improve the squad.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:21 pm  

jonh wrote:

If we can replace him let him go, if we can’t don’t.

Given our quota status though I don’t see how we can replace him with a better player.

Wardle, Newman, Percival King etc are not going to be allowed to move can’t see Gildart coming home till end of the year at least and we can’t look overseas unless we offload a player (Miski).

Let him go at the end of the year, absolutely and we have no choice anyway but I don’t see how we can let him go yet and improve the squad.

Surely that depends on whether or not his relationship with the coach has completely malfunctioned? If all he's doing is causing trouble, then we might be better off without him.

That said, it could be a strategy ... to make himself such a pain that we let him go without asking anyone to stump up what's left of his contract. So maybe it's best if he just sits out the rest of 2022. (I'd be damned if I let Hetherington have him for nothing, when he's technically still got 6 months to run).

I don't know what Zak's issues are, by the way ... I'm only responding to some of the stories on here.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:38 pm  

MattyB wrote:

May be legs in it:

I’ve been wrong before Matty and I will be again in the future so I won’t lose too much sleep if I’m wrong.
I trust Peet 100% on this.

Re: Hardaker? : Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:58 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

I’ve been wrong before Matty and I will be again in the future so I won’t lose too much sleep if I’m wrong.
I trust Peet 100% on this.

Fully agree. If he stays then fine but if he goes on loan then there's reasons for it.