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Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.

Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:00 pm  
I am keen to see who from SL Madge rates and brings in.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:07 pm  
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Im quite sure one of them could play in the other centre.


Which is likely to reduce their effectiveness, perhaps considerably. I know you didn't say it but it is not as simple as knowing your left from your right as some simplistically believe. If it was, centres would be much more interchangeable than they are.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:14 pm  
Shenton should be able to 'deal' with it for a season knowing he'll be first in line to step into Gleesons role in 2012.

Shentons game is based around solid defence and strong runs rather than being a 'handling' centre so it shouldn't effect him to much.

Sometimes you've gotta bite the bullet think of Shentons long term career at Wigan rather than just his first season.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:15 pm  
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Which is likely to reduce their effectiveness, perhaps considerably. I know you didn't say it but it is not as simple as knowing your left from your right as some simplistically believe. If it was, centres would be much more interchangeable than they are.


I agree, people don't put enough emphasis on how 3/4's have specialist sides. I remember when Vaealiki was given a run at right centre by Millward/Noble and his attacking threat was noticeably nulled. People will take the mickey out of Vaealiki but he was a threat at times from the left mainly because he had a great left hand offload. Its things like that that can make the difference.

Another thing is that people seem to be referring to Shenton as a replacement for Carmont. Although this would mean he would be on the correct side, Carmont will be at Wigan in 2011 bar a serious injury this year. Of course heaven forbid that doesn't happen but it does make me wonder whether Wigan should have stuck to their guns with the Carmont contract situation and said 1 year take it or leave it. Goulding has shown that if Carmont had of taken the leave it option he would have been extremely capable of stepping up.

Edit: Apologies, Shenton of course is a right centre. Still, the point remains. As it stands there isn't an obvious spot for him in 2011.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:19 pm  
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Shenton should be able to 'deal' with it for a season knowing he'll be first in line to step into Gleesons role in 2012.

Shentons game is based around solid defence and strong runs rather than being a 'handling' centre so it shouldn't effect him to much.

Sometimes you've gotta bite the bullet think of Shentons long term career at Wigan rather than just his first season.


Think Gleeson is off contract at the end of the 2012 season so it would be 2 seasons.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:43 pm  
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LMS is a talent and it's easy to bag him by saying he's had it easy or is overhyped by his team but he's still a good young prop playing in a poor squad.

If you don't rate LMS then sadly there's not much better out there.

We may have to start looking at other players who can switch.

The first guy i'd be looking at is Langley. He's got the size, strength and attitude to be a quality prop IMO. I'd liken him to Coley in that he's a unit with a real motor inside who just with his sheer natural bulk and strength will be able to adapt easily to the props role.

I also like the look of Watts at Hull KR as he's another big guy with a lot of potential and like Mossop he could move to prop.


Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook is a talent and in terms of young British props he is probably the best out there, but I can't help but think the way Prescott and O'carroll are playing, along with Lee Mossop most likely going to prop and Gareth Hock also going to come back as prop we might not need him. Instead we might be better using up a quota spot to bring in that tough, no nonsense, sh!thouse prop from the NRL we so badly need.

Jamie Langley is another good no nonsense forward, but I can't see him leaving Bradford or if he ever does it would be for a heavy price in terms of the salary cap and IMO we have player in a similar mould who has the potential to be a lot better in Lee Mossop.

Liam Watts does look like a talented young lad. I like the look of him, but at the moment he is a second row forward just on the scene and god knows we have plenty of talented young players coming through at the moment and I wont waste anyones time listing them.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:46 pm  
Didn't Shenton play left centre for England v Aus?
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:49 pm  
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well who else then? Ewan Dowes? Nick Scruton? Fa'asavalou?, for mine there isn't that many great britsh props in the game anymore, unless you count Morley, Graham & peacock and i can't see us getting any of those three next term



James Graham and Sam Burgess are the best young British prop forwards in the game, but neither are a realistic target.

If you want a young, talented, British forward who is a realistic target then it has to be Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook.

However I don't think he is a great enough improvement on Paul Prescott, Eamon O'carroll and Lee Mossop. Also Gareth Hock will most likely return in 2011 and play at prop forward.

A tough, no nonsense, sh!thouse prop from the NRL with plenty of leadership qualities and experience has to be the priority for me.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:01 pm  
Shenton's a left centre, not a right centre as people have mentioned.
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Re: Rumours and signings 2010 v1 : Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:17 pm  
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Shenton's a left centre, not a right centre as people have mentioned.


Get him signed then. :)
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