rl : Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:21 pm  

If Brian Noble is in the departure lounge before leaving then any new signings would surely be on hold, or already sorted by his successor.
The only signings would therefore be re-signings which is what we've had with Tommy and Sam.
Any future signings will perhaps have to wait until the coaching position is finalised.
If BN is to go then IL would have his replacement lined up before he left, unless a stand in coach would be prepared to take it on a temp basis. No doubt the temp bloke would also want to be certain he will be secure under the new regime before he took on the job.
For the first time today I felt Noble will go, not by what has been said but by what hasn't.
On Sam's re-signing Noble didn't say he was looking forward to working with Sam over the coming months and years. Surely that would be a pre-requisit for any coach re-signing a player of Sam's ability.
Like I say, for the first time today I really think he'll go!
There have been other give aways but I think it's a done deal he's going.

Re: rl : Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:34 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

If Brian Noble is in the departure lounge before leaving then any new signings would surely be on hold, or already sorted by his successor.
The only signings would therefore be re-signings which is what we've had with Tommy and Sam.
Any future signings will perhaps have to wait until the coaching position is finalised.
If BN is to go then IL would have his replacement lined up before he left, unless a stand in coach would be prepared to take it on a temp basis. No doubt the temp bloke would also want to be certain he will be secure under the new regime before he took on the job.
For the first time today I felt Noble will go, not by what has been said but by what hasn't.
On Sam's re-signing Noble didn't say he was looking forward to working with Sam over the coming months and years. Surely that would be a pre-requisit for any coach re-signing a player of Sam's ability.
Like I say, for the first time today I really think he'll go!
There have been other give aways but I think it's a done deal he's going.

I think we need to go all out and get THE best coach from Australia we can possibly get this season. Someone who hasnt been softened by coaching in Superleague before and had that amazing knowledge of the game that can bring on young stars like Tomkins, Ainscough and hopefully some success after too many years.

Re: rl : Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:36 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

If Brian Noble is in the departure lounge before leaving then any new signings would surely be on hold, or already sorted by his successor.
The only signings would therefore be re-signings which is what we've had with Tommy and Sam.
Any future signings will perhaps have to wait until the coaching position is finalised.
If BN is to go then IL would have his replacement lined up before he left, unless a stand in coach would be prepared to take it on a temp basis. No doubt the temp bloke would also want to be certain he will be secure under the new regime before he took on the job.
For the first time today I felt Noble will go, not by what has been said but by what hasn't.
On Sam's re-signing Noble didn't say he was looking forward to working with Sam over the coming months and years. Surely that would be a pre-requisit for any coach re-signing a player of Sam's ability.
Like I say, for the first time today I really think he'll go!
There have been other give aways but I think it's a done deal he's going.

For me the circumstances we find are selves in I feel will be hampering are recruitment effort, after all who is making the decisions on whom to sign, Lenegan?
Is the new coach already calling shots on who to sign without being here? If were competing with others clubs for players such as Myler and they want to no who the coach is and speak to him about how they would fit into the clubs plans, can they?

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:38 pm  

will we really be in for myler when we tried sign long

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:42 pm  

Jonah.lfc wrote:

will we really be in for myler when we tried sign long

Maybe we weren't but after missing out on him maybe thats now changed.

I doubt us getting him but theres no harm in trying and pushing both the transfer fee up and his wages if we do miss out.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:48 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Maybe we weren't but after missing out on him maybe thats now changed.

I doubt us getting him but theres no harm in trying and pushing both the transfer fee up and his wages if we do miss out.

seems saints or also in for him

Wonder were that leaves Eastmond. with wheeler signing a new contract i cant see them keeping both IF they sign myler

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:49 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Maybe we weren't but after missing out on him maybe thats now changed.

I doubt us getting him but theres no harm in trying and pushing both the transfer fee up and his wages if we do miss out.

Although Myler is a good player, is it really wise to throw a young half-back partnership at SL full-time? Could Myler and/or Tomkins handle that pressure of a bad game?

I know McGuire and Burrows did it, but they were guided by a vastly experienced player (memory deserts me as I cannot think of his name). If we were to sign Myler we'd need a vastly experienced half-back to nurture them both and to help mould them into a world-class half back partnership.

It's highly unlikely we'd have enough space on the cap for Myler, another class and experienced half-back and a world class prop. Therefore we stand little chance of signing Myler.

Re: rl : Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:59 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

For me the circumstances we find are selves in I feel will be hampering are recruitment effort, after all who is making the decisions on whom to sign, Lenegan?
Is the new coach already calling shots on who to sign without being here? If were competing with others clubs for players such as Myler and they want to no who the coach is and speak to him about how they would fit into the clubs plans, can they?

At the end of the day, it's surely more about how much money they're paying you and which club you're going to be playing for?

Noble may be a lame duck coach at present, but if the money's right (and you can be pretty sure there'll be a coach who's at least as good as Noble, if not better, at Wigan, when your first season here starts), then we're not going to look any worse a prospect than any other club.

Lots of people talk about this type uncertainty we're going through as though it doesn't afflict other clubs. Whenever a coach is changed, there's bound to be this sort of atmosphere. Very few clubs lose their coach without some kind of cross-over difficulty. Most players will have experienced something similar. I doubt it'll be a huge consideration.

In addition, I no longer buy into this Alex Murphy era folklorism about the coach being the main man when it comes to recruitment. He doubtless has a key role to play, but he doesn't sign the cheques or negotiate the Salary Cap era economics of the new contract.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:01 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

Although Myler is a good player, is it really wise to throw a young half-back partnership at SL full-time? Could Myler and/or Tomkins handle that pressure of a bad game?

I know McGuire and Burrows did it, but they were guided by a vastly experienced player (memory deserts me as I cannot think of his name). If we were to sign Myler we'd need a vastly experienced half-back to nurture them both and to help mould them into a world-class half back partnership.

It's highly unlikely we'd have enough space on the cap for Myler, another class and experienced half-back and a world class prop. Therefore we stand little chance of signing Myler.

McGuire and Burrow has Dunneman to help them out who shifted between hooker and halfback which is a role Leuluai could take on aswell. He isn't as experienced as Dunneman was but if we can get the experienced heads into the pack as we should I don't really see it as much of a problem.

I honestly believe as a pair Myler and Tomkins have more promise then what McGuire and Burrow ever showed. McGuire burst onto the scene abit like those 2 but Burrow was more of a slow burner.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:02 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

It's highly unlikely we'd have enough space on the cap for Myler, another class and experienced half-back and a world class prop. Therefore we stand little chance of signing Myler.

Leuluai ?



IN:

Myler
World Class Prop

OUT:

Bailey
Smith
Coley
Hock's Wage

Easy.