: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:50 pm  

He is going to have a positive B sample, it is extremely rare that the B sample comes back different to the original sample given.

He is going to serve his 2 years ban, and rightly so.

Wigan should during this period support Gaz, as long as he is showing genuine regret for his actions and is proactive in ensuring that it doesn't happen again, and then after the 2 years if he still wants to come back and play rugby then the club should see where they are at and whether they want him.

I would certainly not be against having him play for wigan again in two years time, as long as the management made special circumstances such as extremely regular drug tests for him, and promises made by him to the club to sort himself out.

HOPEFULLY this will have given him the kick up the ar se that he needed, and will use the two years away from the support to sort his life out [and bulk up to become a prop ]

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:50 pm  

thepriestman85 wrote:

It's ok if the players come forward and volunteer as a group but at times like this the club has to look to the likes of Lockers, Richards and Carmont as senior players to work through it together.

IL coming in and forcing mandatory drug tests on players like I said above won’t work and won’t make things better even if the tests come back negative.

Time for the club to come together not divide and that includes the fans as well.

It couldn't and shouldn't be forced on them but if Lenagan/Noble suggests it i'd hope the response would be a positive one.

If they have nothing to hide and want to be a professional rugbyleague player for Wigan it shouldn't be a problem.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:51 pm  

maurice wrote:

I recall rumours of a drug culture when Millward was with you and a lack of support to sort it out (sorry if this has been discussed but couldnt be bothered reading all posts)

Hock mysteriously vanished when Millward was in charge but reappeared for Noble, I always found that odd.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:51 pm  

AJ wrote:

It makes a change from Dave

Yeah, the club was in danger in '06, due to bad coaching and recruitment, today imo, it is in danger due to weak leadership, both from Noble & IL. Every week there is some kind of blunder from the club that in Maurices day would have seen RLfans and the Wigan Observers letters page explode, but some posters seem to refuse to acknowledge these things.

Perhaps my "dying on its feet" line was a little dramatic, but im sickened today at yet another gaff that is tearing another shread of pride away from the club that once truely reflected the meaning of the word proud.

This is the first major gaff to come out of the club since IL took over and even then it's not his, BN's or the clubs fault.

Lets face it Gaz Hock is a grade A plonker of a chav and i doubt anyone was actually surprised or wouldn't have picked his name out as the one guy most likely to have done this.

We could have had Hitler and his SS guards running Wigan under a lock and key and I’d still have put money on Gaz doing it as he’s that much of a chav with no comprehension of the bigger picture.

And please don't start with the pathetic reasons people pull out to moan at like the sponsor is to big or colourful on the shirt, IL lied to the media or the players didn't turn up to the xmas party because in the grand scheme of things they are miniscule events blown way out of proportion.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:53 pm  

Dave Allen is back with Oldham. Ryan Hudson is back. How many more can you name who has been banned and come back in the game. Why shouldnt they, a drink driver goes back to driving after his conviction is served etc. Cantonna came back hahahah[/i]

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:54 pm  

What an awful few weeks for Wigan RL:

Beaten by Celtic.
Out the Playoff positions and dropped to 10th Spot.
Whelan going back on his word and giving the Stadium to Latics.
Hock tested positive for Cocaine.
IL / BN New Coach Saga.
Attendances dropping & failed to sell out our allocation for the Semi.

The blue half of Wigan are loving every minute of this.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:55 pm  

Roll Over wrote:

Dave Allen is back with Oldham. Ryan Hudson is back. How many more can you name who has been banned and come back in the game. Why shouldnt they, a drink driver goes back to driving after his conviction is served etc. Cantonna came back hahahah[/i]

Rio Ferdinhand came back for united.....................oooh hang on he only 'missed' his drugs test

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:55 pm  

After finally climbing to moral high ground I can now say in the style of Borat

'Naughty Naughty'!!!!!!

Ive had enough of shi'ite things happening at Wigan.

Lets hope his 2nd test turns out to be negative if not tough titties he will be banned and then in 2 years give him a lifeline and in the meantime help Hock get off the drugs and keep him occupied once clean from drugs and his aquaintances which would lead him astray again he needs to boot them into touch.

If the club helps him he will come back a better person for it and maybe a better player or the club could take a caveman stance and let him rot and he either goes off the rails big time never to be seen again or comes back in 2 years and signs for Wire and is class.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:55 pm  

I am probably one of Lenagan's biggest critics; I do not think he has done a good job since arriving. However I think it is grossly unfair to lay any sort of blame at his door for the Gareth Hock situation.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:57 pm  

One of Noble's first actions was to get shut of the alleged naughtiest boy at the club.