Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:17 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

Top picture, the bit of head top right and the boot bottom right, is that Liam Moore ? If it is he's got the best view in the house as to whether the ball touched the line

Absolutely spot on
Using a still shot from a different anlge to say what the ref could or couldn't see is ridiculous

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:31 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

Absolutely spot on
Using a still shot from a different anlge to say what the ref could or couldn't see is ridiculous

The problem is there are plenty angles and still shots that show the ball not on the line.

There isn't one that shows it on the line.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:49 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I have, and it doesn't. This is the image you refer to and in this image you categorically CANNOT see the ball on the line.

That's because there's a rugby ball in the way

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:15 pm  

Jukesays wrote: Absolutely spot on Using a still shot from a different anlge to say what the ref could or couldn't see is ridiculous Case in point. https://www.facebook.com/reel/735599925 ... e&s=TIeQ9V Apologies if this link doesn't work. But it's on Facebook on NRL on Nine page. Even the studio of Aussies is split there. Brad Fittler saying on the line. As I said earlier, not as controversial as Saints/Wire fans will have you believe. That video favours the ref's initial call.

Jukesays wrote: Absolutely spot on Using a still shot from a different anlge to say what the ref could or couldn't see is ridiculous Case in point. https://www.facebook.com/reel/735599925 ... e&s=TIeQ9V Apologies if this link doesn't work. But it's on Facebook on NRL on Nine page. Even the studio of Aussies is split there. Brad Fittler saying on the line. As I said earlier, not as controversial as Saints/Wire fans will have you believe. That video favours the ref's initial call.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:26 pm  

LewCharnock wrote: Case in point. https://www.facebook.com/reel/735599925 ... e&s=TIeQ9V Apologies if this link doesn't work. But it's on Facebook on NRL on Nine page. Even the studio of Aussies is split there. Brad Fittler saying on the line. As I said earlier, not as controversial as Saints/Wire fans will have you believe. That video favours the ref's initial call. That's brilliant

LewCharnock wrote: Case in point. https://www.facebook.com/reel/735599925 ... e&s=TIeQ9V Apologies if this link doesn't work. But it's on Facebook on NRL on Nine page. Even the studio of Aussies is split there. Brad Fittler saying on the line. As I said earlier, not as controversial as Saints/Wire fans will have you believe. That video favours the ref's initial call. That's brilliant

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:32 pm  

DOESNT ******* MATTER

It was given, move on

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:27 pm  

The image with Wardles finger is an example of nothing only him putting a finger up to indicate he got the ball down at a point, not as the picture is caught.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:28 pm  

Go around in circles here but.... you have three tacklers trying to stop a try no conversations with each other trying to do their best but all acting independently, the whole action lasts a second at most at the point ref gets a view he sees ball on floor clearly shown on image, Wardle finger in air was to say he got it down but by that time they have pushed him back away and is a moment later than the grounding. No way on earth from camera angles can anyone for certain say ball doesn't touch white grass. Nor can they for sure say that it's Wardle moving it and not one of the tackling players pulling the arm up while other player pulling arm away in opposite directions. But which ever side you sit we are all bias. The images are all different timeline ball is never really stationary Wardle trying get to line one Penrith player pulling to body other pulling away, it does show that the ref does see what he thinks is a grounded ball and is also better placed than any camera. The shape of ball it's position and the run of the line would 100 times out of 100 see this go up as a try, and by the rules in place you can't chalk it off no matter how your bias would like that. I can live with that just like I'm sure Saints fans can live with Penrith players backing up what many thought last year, that they didn't take last year's game seriously and didn't really prepare for it. We both have it chalked down as a win.

Go around in circles here but.... you have three tacklers trying to stop a try no conversations with each other trying to do their best but all acting independently, the whole action lasts a second at most at the point ref gets a view he sees ball on floor clearly shown on image, Wardle finger in air was to say he got it down but by that time they have pushed him back away and is a moment later than the grounding. No way on earth from camera angles can anyone for certain say ball doesn't touch white grass. Nor can they for sure say that it's Wardle moving it and not one of the tackling players pulling the arm up while other player pulling arm away in opposite directions. But which ever side you sit we are all bias. The images are all different timeline ball is never really stationary Wardle trying get to line one Penrith player pulling to body other pulling away, it does show that the ref does see what he thinks is a grounded ball and is also better placed than any camera. The shape of ball it's position and the run of the line would 100 times out of 100 see this go up as a try, and by the rules in place you can't chalk it off no matter how your bias would like that. I can live with that just like I'm sure Saints fans can live with Penrith players backing up what many thought last year, that they didn't take last year's game seriously and didn't really prepare for it. We both have it chalked down as a win.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:29 pm  

Apologies if it’s been said already on one of the previous pages…but I can’t believe the lack of credit given to Wigans effort when you factor in there was no Havard, Thompson and Walters. Going up against a massive pack like that with Leeming and Cooper getting injuries in the game (appreciate that Cooper came back on) and a really raw prospect in Hill. Outstanding effort when you factor in things like that.

Re: World Club Challenge - Wigan v Penrith : Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:33 pm  

Big shout out to Cleary as well. The fact that, after defeat, he went to the North stand and spent god knows how long taking selfies with fans and signing autographs. True class