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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:02 am  
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What seperates Ashton from 'the other three'?


Ashton was good, and was missed.

SL players like Sculthorpe and Harris? Unfortunatley, the emergence of that crop of players coincided with us entering into a rather large financial blackhole, hence their sale and effectively dismantling of the junior set up..


Everyone has reasons why they don't produce young stars - at least, the clubs who don't produce them do. I'd guess most other SL clubs who fail at this task would argue they also lack the cash. But that doesn't solve SL's essential problem that there aren't enough youngsters being brought into the game - especially when some of the clubs concerned then go and spend a fortune on the likes of Gleeson, Morley, King, Carvell, etc.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, competing with RU monies it is nigh on impossible. But that doesn't suit your propaganda. As for my favourite place, I will remain here as long as is required to highlight the nonsense propogated. It doesn't take long for the salary cap agenda to raise it's head, does it?.


I'm guessing you don't see the irony in this paragraph?

Apologies to others for derailing the thread, but I can't abide lies and hypocrisy.


A classic contradiction in terms. The second half of the sentence basically cancels out the first.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:33 am  
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Would Josh Vievers go and play for his Uncle in Australia?

I'd rather his Uncle come & coach Wigan.


As far as i understand Phil has been waiting until his son was old enough to make his own decisions in life before moving to OZ and im led to believe he is staying at Wigan beause he wants to.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:36 am  
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But doesn't Josh still live with his mother who is divorced from Phil Vievers.


Still has a lot to do with his dad tho
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:53 am  
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As I said earlier in this thread I got told an Friday night that Kyle Eastmond is heading for Rugby Union next year.

For the sake of our game I hope not.


I will make a prediction now.....IF he does go he will not be there long, a season or 2 and he will be back, he is not the Jason Robinson that the Union boys are so desperate to find in League again, and due to his physical size limitations in my opinion he will really struggle in the outside backs in Union.

If he is getting the right advice he will be playing League in and aboud the ruck/halves for all his career where he can use his natural ability and gifts to the greatest effect.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:00 am  
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I will make a prediction now.....IF he does go he will not be there long, a season or 2 and he will be back, he is not the Jason Robinson that the Union boys are so desperate to find in League again, and due to his physical size limitations in my opinion he will really struggle in the outside backs in Union.

If he is getting the right advice he will be playing League in and aboud the ruck/halves for all his career where he can use his natural ability and gifts to the greatest effect.
I can see him ending up on the wing.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:15 am  
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I can see him ending up on the wing.


He will be played there but i personally do not think he will perform to the levels they hope, although there is nothing he can do about it he will be a huge target for the taller outside union backs.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:18 am  
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I will make a prediction now.....IF he does go he will not be there long, a season or 2 and he will be back, he is not the Jason Robinson that the Union boys are so desperate to find in League again, and due to his physical size limitations in my opinion he will really struggle in the outside backs in Union.

If he is getting the right advice he will be playing League in and aboud the ruck/halves for all his career where he can use his natural ability and gifts to the greatest effect.


It makes me glad that Sam is an awkward, scrawny type character who doesn't really have a natural role in Union. At least, I hope he doesn't.

That said, if Eastmond goes - and he's clearly a young man with a big future - I hope the RFL wake up to this threat, and try to take some action. Even if he's only gone a few short years, RU could still ruin him - a la Iestyn Harris.

We don't produce anything like enough good halfbacks in GB. We can ill afford to lose someone like Eastmond.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:32 am  
Sorry to bring his name up again people but we've been linked with Griffin in today's Express as well as Ryan Boyle from cas. Must admit first time I've seen it make it into the papers hopefully it wont be true, as for Boyle don't really know much about the kid other than cas fans really rate him.
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: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:41 am  
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Sorry to bring his name up again people but we've been linked with Griffin in today's Express as well as Ryan Boyle from cas. Must admit first time I've seen it make it into the papers hopefully it wont be true, as for Boyle don't really know much about the kid other than cas fans really rate him.


I'd take Boyle.

He's always seemed like a decent player although a little clumbsy.

Best of all, he's only 21.
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