: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:35 pm  

up and over wrote:

Thought the RL had suspended him, and not the club.

They didn't have any option

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:36 pm  

Pie Eyed wrote:

Depends on the test.

Use the hair follicle test and any residue will be visible for as long as the hair has been growing - Weeks or even months.

Yes, you can "beat" the test with a special shampoo, but that will only cover your tracks for 8 hours.

Therefore, you get them all in early one morning, then do your training, have lunch, have an extra training/swimming/weights session in the afternoon, and after 9 to 10 hours, you test them.

For those that shave their heads (whether to get around the test or not), pubes, leg-hairs, moustaches all carry the same results.

Intrusive - Maybe
Necessary - Definitely

Lenagan should make this happen, as the ONLY players that would not want to be tested are those with something to hide.

If the players have any integrity as a group, they should offer to be tested in this way, to prove that they have nothing to hide.

My point exactly.

Any other player found to be guilty should be shown the door. This is not an isolated incident in my opinion.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:46 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

My point exactly.

Any other player found to be guilty should be shown the door. This is not an isolated incident in my opinion.

We might end up with no team

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:47 pm  

Finfin wrote:

And they have promised to support him and have him back.

Once his ban is up there's nothing stopping Wigan doing the same with Hock.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:52 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Once his ban is up there's nothing stopping Wigan doing the same with Hock.

Wheather it's right or wrong i think the same thing will happen with Hock and Wigan.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:08 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Wheather it's right or wrong i think the same thing will happen with Hock and Wigan.

And so it should we cant afford to lose talent like his.

What hes done should never be accepted but the facts are after 2 years every SL club will be after him.

Wigan as a club should not be punished for what some idiot player as done.

I'm sorry if i sound like what hes done is right i'm truelly not..I'm speaking with my rugby head here..And i'll be damned if i let our rivals take advantage of us letting a talent go like Hock.

There will be no moral highground when 13 SL sides or fighting for him to sign for them in 2 years

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:08 pm  

loyal18 wrote:

i aint saying keep him im saying stand by him his b test may come back negative

And if his B sample comes back negative you will see me pulling nicky kiss down King Street in a rickshaw

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:09 pm  

This is nothing short of a disaster.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:11 pm  

I havent looked through all the posts on here.. so I don't know if I am the only one... but I kinda feel a bit sorry for Gaz.. before everyone kicks off with me..

If us humans are anything, we are without doubt falable and make mistakes.. I just wonder if Gareth realised the true consequences of his actions before sniffing that bit of powder.. I know its banned, but so is speeding but alot of people do it... How many times in the papers do people judge everyone else... I am of the opinion that "we" as a society have to take some responsibility for the actions of Gareth Hock.. It is our society that make cocaine abuse as normal as drinking a pint of larger on a night out.. yes there are consequences of take drugs as sportmen.. but how many people pick up the phone while driving and don't realise the dangers this poses.. Us as humans have a bizarre perception of risk and it therefore makes us prone to making errors in judgement....

Let those who do not sin, cast the first stone..

I am sure in hindsight Gareth wouldn't have touched the coke.. let him apologies to the many family/friends/ his child/children(if he has any) the club the fans and let him get on with his life... it must be hell for him at the moment and although disappointed with his actions, I can't help but feel for the lad...

Thanks for the memories Gaz...
I know he has let down many people.. but he is a Wiganer and lets hope he gets through this and takes his punishment on the chin and comes back a better man...(Whether its with Wigan or not)...

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:14 pm  

wigan_knight wrote:

And so it should we cant afford to lose talent like his.

What hes done should never be accepted but the facts are after 2 years every SL club will be after him.

Wigan as a club should not be punished for what some idiot player as done.

I'm sorry if i sound like what hes done is right i'm truelly not..I'm speaking with my rugby head here..And i'll be damned if i let our rivals take advantage of us letting a talent go like Hock.

There will be no moral highground when 13 SL sides or fighting for him to sign for them in 2 years

Teams(including us to be fair) were willing to give a guy who'd glassed his own girlfriend a second chance over here so aslong as Hock sorts his act out, accepts some terms and conditions and shows a genuine remorse i don't think we could be that badly thought of for offering a guy a second chance.