: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:20 pm  

loyal18 wrote:

Yeh Hes A Profesional but for all i dont think hes this stupid to take drugs tbh i think there could even be good reason what if he went to a pub or sumat after the england game what if some1 spiked his drink ,for all we know hock could be getting punnished for no reason ,im not saying he did not but could be possible ?

He was tested after the salford game and he ain't been punished yet! If the b sample also tests positive he should be banned fair and square

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:21 pm  

Deano G wrote:

No. He faces a serious charge but innocent until proven guilty should apply.

If he's cleared by the hearing then he should be considered innocent and will have my full backing.

If he is found guilty then he should be sacked and never play for Wigan again. Simple really!

But will he have the full backing of the majority of fans. Hock does something stupid and everyone wants him out. If he gets through this unscathed how will he feel if he wears the cherry and white again. seems like another one who'll come back to haunt us.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:21 pm  

loyal18 wrote:

if it was sum1 like riddle or tim smith then id obv want em out !!
but hock is better then both and a wigan lad so we should stand by him what if he took 2nd test and was negetive ? im sure we'd all be sorry and what if that happends and we stupidly release him and wire,saints snap him up ?!

Sorry but where he is from, how good a player he is and anything else should become irrelevant if his B sample comes back positive.

Keeping a player just because they are a local lad is a ridiculous idea

Re: Attention Ian Lenegan : Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:22 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

I think in light of the damage that has been caused to the clubs good name the management / directors need to close out any possibility of other players / staff being found to have done the same thing.

The club should automatically test all employee's for compliance.

This is now happening on construction sites where random drugs and Alcohol checks / test are now commonly undertaken.

By the time they tested them it would be out of there system anyway even if they were all at it.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:22 pm  

gateaux wrote:

Sorry but where he is from, how good a player he is and anything else should become irrelevant if his B sample comes back positive.

Keeping a player just because they are a local lad is a ridiculous idea

i aint saying keep him im saying stand by him his b test may come back negative

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:24 pm  

loyal18 wrote:

i aint saying keep him im saying stand by him his b test may come back negative

dont want to burst your clutching at staws bubble

but the club would not have outed him if that was even a remote possibility.


soz

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:29 pm  

redeverready wrote:

Young George Flanagan got sacked by Batley last week after testing positive for cocaine and getting the 2 year ban.

And they have promised to support him and have him back.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:29 pm  

chapster wrote:

dont want to burst your clutching at staws bubble

but the club would not have outed him if that was even a remote possibility.


soz

Thought the RL had suspended him, and not the club.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:30 pm  

Depends on the test.

Use the hair follicle test and any residue will be visible for as long as the hair has been growing - Weeks or even months.

Yes, you can "beat" the test with a special shampoo, but that will only cover your tracks for 8 hours.

Therefore, you get them all in early one morning, then do your training, have lunch, have an extra training/swimming/weights session in the afternoon, and after 9 to 10 hours, you test them.

For those that shave their heads (whether to get around the test or not), pubes, leg-hairs, moustaches all carry the same results.

Intrusive - Maybe
Necessary - Definitely

Lenagan should make this happen, as the ONLY players that would not want to be tested are those with something to hide.

If the players have any integrity as a group, they should offer to be tested in this way, to prove that they have nothing to hide.

: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:35 pm  

I fully agree, I suspect there is more than one, there normally is.

Now is the time for IL to act and get a grib of this club.