Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:16 pm  

This isn't contact apparently https://twitter.com/FrEaK_HullFC/status/1791842886297805116?t=hIRAcQnhwROgl0GxsKTo4g&s=19

This isn't contact apparently https://twitter.com/FrEaK_HullFC/status/1791842886297805116?t=hIRAcQnhwROgl0GxsKTo4g&s=19

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:31 pm  

Phuzzy wrote: This isn't contact apparently https://twitter.com/FrEaK_HullFC/status/1791842886297805116?t=hIRAcQnhwROgl0GxsKTo4g&s=19 Nice to know that this is now considered acceptable contact. Let's get a few of them in next week lads see where it gets us! That is baffling with how crazy they have gone with head contact this season, even with it now toned down that should be multiple games. Clear as day he makes shoulder contact direct to the head in an overly aggressive challenge, and this isn't some obscure angle this was shown on BBC!!

Phuzzy wrote: This isn't contact apparently https://twitter.com/FrEaK_HullFC/status/1791842886297805116?t=hIRAcQnhwROgl0GxsKTo4g&s=19 Nice to know that this is now considered acceptable contact. Let's get a few of them in next week lads see where it gets us! That is baffling with how crazy they have gone with head contact this season, even with it now toned down that should be multiple games. Clear as day he makes shoulder contact direct to the head in an overly aggressive challenge, and this isn't some obscure angle this was shown on BBC!!

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:33 pm  

I’ve give up worrying about it now. I don’t want to see any players banned because it’s that inconsistent every none ban feels like a win.


Ellis can have a rest, so no problem there but it’s a shame to see Walters back out of a game. Hiku is a very very lucky lad. It makes no sense but none of it does.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:38 pm  

BoredWiganer wrote:

Nice to know that this is now considered acceptable contact. Let's get a few of them in next week lads see where it gets us!

That is baffling with how crazy they have gone with head contact this season, even with it now toned down that should be multiple games. Clear as day he makes shoulder contact direct to the head in an overly aggressive challenge, and this isn't some obscure angle this was shown on BBC!!

You can even see Field's head rock back on contact! Can you imagine had that been Byrne (or Knowles or Lees for that matter) carrying out that assault?

But let's play devil's advocate for a minute and enter the panel's fantasy world where no contact took place. It's still clear as day what his intention was. This was not an accident that occured whilst making a tackle. He drops on an already prone player with the sole intention to cause pain or injury! How does sanctioning that type of behavior reconcile with the much quoted duty of care?

The panel is a joke and simply not fit for purpose and needs replacing with competent people who actually know what they are doing.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:47 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’ve give up worrying about it now. I don’t want to see any players banned because it’s that inconsistent every none ban feels like a win.


Ellis can have a rest, so no problem there but it’s a shame to see Walters back out of a game. Hiku is a very very lucky lad. It makes no sense but none of it does.

I might comment on these decisions but then I'm usually quite "meh! Let's move on". However, this one makes me really angry. There's inconsistent and then there's incompetent and this firmly falls into the latter category.

I thought the Asiata decisions last year were a farce but I can see how they didn't contravene the rules of the day (they should have done but that's a different argument). This, however, clearly contravenes current rules and, maybe more importantly, current directives around head safety. Given the threat to the game regarding insurance etc, to ignore, even encourage, this type of behavior is tantamount to dereliction of duty.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 2:57 pm  

Better be squeaky clean over the next two weeks, wouldn’t put it past this panel to ruin the final with bans, Williams and French banned anyone ?

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 3:00 pm  

Phuzzy wrote:

I might comment on these decisions but then I'm usually quite "meh! Let's move on". However, this one makes me really angry. There's inconsistent and then there's incompetent and this firmly falls into the latter category.

I thought the Asiata decisions last year were a farce but I can see how they didn't contravene the rules of the day (they should have done but that's a different argument). This, however, clearly contravenes current rules and, maybe more importantly, current directives around head safety. Given the threat to the game regarding insurance etc, to ignore, even encourage, this type of behavior is tantamount to dereliction of duty.

Exactly, this isn't a deflection from the shoulder leading to a brush on the head with the fingers as a consequence, i would go as far as to call this a malicious challenge where i would expect a ban given out for many years now.

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 3:04 pm  

BoredWiganer wrote:

Exactly, this isn't a deflection from the shoulder leading to a brush on the head with the fingers as a consequence, i would go as far as to call this a malicious challenge where i would expect a ban given out for many years now.

Either way, it’s an act that has been described as “terrible” by Hull KR Academy coach Jason Netherton who went further and claimed that it “should have been a red card”.

You couldn't make it up!

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 4:02 pm  

Wigan were far better on the day, hats off to your lads you strangled the life out of us.
I can't blame the ref, unlike a lot of others are highlighting that Wigan got the rub of the green, you were simply too good on the day.
Interesting thought that the MRP cited 9 Wigan incidents, mostly missed by the ref aswell.
As for Hiku, looked like the intent was there I'll admit that, but as for contact, how many Wigan players ran in to challenge him about it? Maybe they didn't see anything in it either.

Anyway good luck going forward, I can see you doing the treble this year, MP's got you very well drilled

Re: HKR (CC semi-final) : Mon May 20, 2024 4:10 pm  

bishops finger wrote:

Wigan were far better on the day, hats off to your lads you strangled the life out of us.
I can't blame the ref, unlike a lot of others are highlighting that Wigan got the rub of the green, you were simply too good on the day.
Interesting thought that the MRP cited 9 Wigan incidents, mostly missed by the ref aswell.
As for Hiku, looked like the intent was there I'll admit that, but as for contact, how many Wigan players ran in to challenge him about it? Maybe they didn't see anything in it either.

Anyway good luck going forward, I can see you doing the treble this year, MP's got you very well drilled

Check out the link in this thread mate. There's clear contact.